Podcast

Podcast: Reviewing 'Twilight: Breaking Dawn - Part 2,' 'Anna Karenina' and 'Silver Linings Playbook'

Laremy also tries to guess the movie using the German title

Rope of Silicon PodcastIt's been a while since we had three movies to review, which means today's episode is a little longer than normal as we get to discuss The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 2, Anna Karenina and Silver Linings Playbook. On top of that, Laremy gets to try and guess movies based on their German titles and we get to several of your questions and over/unders in an episode that runs a whopping 99 minutes long.

There is also one show note I want to make sure you're aware of, there will be no Tuesday or Friday podcast next week due to the Thanksgiving holiday and instead there will only be one Wednesday podcast. So adjust your calendars appropriately.

As always, I have broken down this episode on a minute-by-minute basis if you would like to skip ahead and below I have featured the information on how to download the podcast, find us on iTunes or merely just listen in your browser.

  • 00:00-1:44 - Introduction
  • 1:45-5:24 - Show notes
  • 5:25-13:17 - [Listener Question] What are some of the jobs you guys held before settling down? Growing up were you more into movies or writing? [Elijah]
  • 13:18-17:36 - Do you buy magazines for your iPad?
  • 17:37-18:48 - What's with those Hopper commercials?
  • 18:49-24:33 - Guess the movie based on the German title [Quickslay]
    • Dark Signs
    • Between Two Worlds
    • 96 Hours 2
    • Neighbours of the Third Kind
    • What are You Capable of?
    • Merida: Legend of the Highlands
    • Back in the Game
    • Under Wolves
  • 24:34-27:41 - [Listener Question] Do you think Skyfall would have had a better chance at being nominated for Best Picture, as well as other categories, if there had been no other Bond films before it? [DArtagnan]
  • 27:42-34:43 - Anna Karenina review (read mine here)
  • 34:44-43:02 - Silver Linings Playbook review (read mine here)
  • 43:03-1:00:09 - The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 2 review (read mine here)
  • 1:00:10-1:06:33 - Box-Office Challenge (see chart below)
  • 1:06:34-1:07:35 - [Listener Question] Do you think they are really serious about getting a Black James Bond or just going through the motions to look like they gave Idris Elba a fair shot at the role? Bond is a throwback to the world where White Males reign supreme, women are sex objects, the British empire is strong, etc. I don't see that changing. In fact I would say that is the appeal of Bond to its fans. [Mark]
  • 1:07:36-1:08:48 - [Listener Question] No one has seen Zero Dark Thirty but Jessica Chastain is on every Oscar prediction list. Is she the new Meryl Streep? [Mark]
  • 1:08:49-1:13:29 - Josh P. said, "I'm not trying to say that you guys are blind, but when you are somebody who is invested in gay characters more than the next person (and generally more than the next straight person) your view of the world is going to be different. You say that the traits of Guy Pearce's character are organic and don't influence his sexuality, but I see other stereotypes that have been used in the past to convey this notion. As I said, I am glad that you don't think it's a big issue, but to dismiss that idea altogether and to say it has no validity, to me, is a bit misguided."
  • 1:13:30-1:23:15 - Over / Under
    • 4 more movies in the Fast and the Furious franchise [Navaneethks]
    • 28 years until J.R.R Tolkein's Lord of the Rings series is re adapted for film [Xarnis]
    • 51 years until TV and movies are awarded, in one awards ceremony, by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences [Xarnis]
    • 176 years until the major (Hollywood) film industry dies [Xarnis]
    • A- CinemaScore for Breaking Dawn 2 (Part 1 got a B+) [The Colleague]
    • 2 letter grades or higher difference between the two of you on Breaking Dawn 2 (Laremy gave the first one a C, while Brad gave it a D-) [The Colleague]
    • 1 nom for Twilight [JN Films]
    • 1 percent chance that flying cars, power-lacing shoes, hoverboards or pizza hydrators will be invented by October 2015 [Dartagnan]
    • 10 percent chance that on an Alien planet, they will make movie trailers with human screams in the background [Dartagnan]
    • 75 percent on RottenTomatoes score for Breaking Dawn Part 2 [G-Man]
    • 10 movies that are re-released in 3-D in the next 2 years. (So far, there is Monsters' Inc., Star Wars Episode 2 and 3, Jurassic Park, Independence Day, and The Little Mermaid) [Kessler]
    • 5 years until "Lie-MAX" replaces 3-D as the new thing that takes over movies. [Kessler]
    • 1.5 more Nolan films until he's NOMINATED for a Best Director Oscar [EPayneDDS]
    • 2 years we'll see the rumored Chronicle sequel [Michael]
    • 18 million opening weekend for Lincoln (1,500 theaters) [Cordia]
    • $65,000 per theater for Silver Linings Playbook this weekend, 15 theaters [Cordia]
    • 4.5 oscar nominations for Zero Dark Thirty [Cordia]
    • 3.5 years until we get Paul Thomas Anderson's "Inherent Vice" adaptation [Andrew13]
  • 1:23:16-1:24:59 - Watch This or Watch That (Disney vs. Pixar Edition)
    • Wreck-It Ralph vs. Toy Story
    • The Little Mermaid vs. Finding Nemo
    • Beauty and the Beast vs. Monsters, Inc.
    • Tangled vs. Toy Story 3
  • 1:25:00-1:29:09 - Would You Rather:
    • ...see Paul Thomas Anderson do a romcom or Quentin Tarantino
    • After you die, would you rather watch your life as a bystander unable to help when you make stupid decisions, or watch a boring, everlasting movie, with mild plot twists
    • ...watch a bad movie you have seen before or watch a new movie you suspect will be bad
  • 1:29:10-1:30:48 - #GoodTweets
  • 1:30:49-1:33:40 - Brad watched West of Memphis
  • 1:33:41-1:34:44 - Brad got some new shoes
  • 1:34:45-1:35:02 - Closing
  • 1:35:03-1:39:00 - Epilogue

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Fall 2012 Movie Box-Office Draft
Brad vs. Laremy

Laremy's Picks
Movie Date Budget Box-Office Current Total
The Master Sep 14 $35m $16.2m -$71.2m
Looper Sep 28 $30m $139.8m $64.8m
Taken 2 Oct 5 $45m $349.3m $236.8m
Cloud Atlas Oct 26 $100m $25m -$224.9m
Wreck-It Ralph Nov 2 $165m $128.3m -$284.1m
Twilight: Breaking Dawn - Part 2 Nov 16 $131.5m $30.4m -$298.3m
Red Dawn Nov 21 $75m $0
Life of Pi Nov 21 $100m $0
Django Unchained Dec 25 $0
Les Miserables Dec 25 $61m $0
      $689.3m -$576.9m
         
Brad's Picks
Movie Date Budget Box-Office Current Total
Resident Evil: Retribution Sep 14 $65m $221.8m $59.3m
Argo Oct 12 $44.5m $114.5m $3.3m
Paranormal Activity 4 Oct 19 $5m $131m $118.5m
Alex Cross Oct 19 $23m $24.8m -$32.6m
Flight Nov 2 $31m $52.5m -$24.9m
Skyfall Nov 9 $200m $569m $69m
Lincoln Nov 9 $65m $1.3m -$161.1m
Anna Karenina Nov 16 $50m $10.5m -$114.4m
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Dec 14 $150m $0
The Impossible Dec 21 $45m $46.3m -$66.2m
  $1.17b -$149.1m
         

The Fall 2012 Movie Box-Office Draft competition involved both Brad and Laremy "drafting" ten films each in hopes of scoring the largest net total by taking a film's worldwide gross subtracting two-and-a-half-times the reported budget. The film must be released between the months of September-December 2012. The draft took place on August 28 during the RopeofSilicon Podcast which you can listen to right here.

Listed above is all the most recent data as of this post. Budgetary information is not necessarily accurate and will most likely not be accurate until closer to or after each film's release.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/AS/ AS

    You should change the outro music from Tick of the Clock to Shanghai Drive (from Skyfall). Who's with me?

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/AS/ AS
      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Aleonardis/ Aleonardis

        That really is a badass track. Easily, one of my favorite aspects of the film was the score. One of the best of the year. Newman should get nominated.

        • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/AS/ AS

          I put it on whenever I drive through the city at night.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks

    I ordered my iPad 4th gen two days ago and can't wait to get it! I can totally see what you guys are talking about. I am not a big reader but I feel that I would actually read magazines and books on the iPad. We shall find out.

  • Susan

    As critics, do you guys ever miss the rush of seeing a movie for the first time with friends on opening night? If so, how do you make up for that?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks

    This question just popped into my head..... are you guys planning a rope of silicon app for the iPad?

  • JN Films

    Over/Under
    4 years till a Chronicle Sequel
    15 years till Christian Bale Retires
    8 more film by Christopher Nolan

  • James

    Skyfall does not feel like a Sam Mendes film, it feels like a (lesser) Christopher Nolan film. I think Skyfall would feel fresher if it came out 5 years ago.

  • Lukas Mix

    Hi, pilgrims, this one I already asked and I gots to know from you!

    Question:

    When I watched THE A-TEAM a few years ago here in Germany, the audience burst out laughing and hollering at one specific scene that surely isn't funny to the rest of the world. The scene in question was an establishing helicopter shot of a German city where the team just landed.
    The text below the shot said "Frankfurt". The funny bit was that it obviously wasn't Frankfurt but Cologne, picturing the famous Cologne dome prominently
    (Cologne and Frankfurt are one of the biggest cities in Germany).

    Now, to make comparison: it's as if they'd shown the Seattle Space Needle and written "Chicago" below.

    In a globalized market, with Germany being one of the biggest, how in the heck can something like that slip by in in a multi-million blockbuster movie without fact checking?!

    Word

  • Dj

    I work at a movie theatre and yes there is an end credits in which they list EVERY actor to EVER appear in twilight and while this is happening when they get to the three leads people began to cheer both woman and men,so you guys really missed out.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/SmartFilm/ SmartFilm

    Listener Question:

    What would you think of staging a box office challenge for your listeners? I know it might take some internet savvy, but it would be fun to be able to compete against other listeners or maybe just small groups of friends or whatnot. Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth but I know I would have a blast doing it and I feel like it would really engage the audience on a really interactive level.

    Additionally, I would love to see you guys do an actor/actress draft because I think I remember you doing one for directors a while back and I personally find segments like that monstrously entertaining.

  • Mr_Mercury

    Listener Question?
    You two were saying that the part two of a movie is better than part 1, ex: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows. However I would say part two is better because part one is dedicated to character development. Therefore, part 2 wouldn't be as good without part 1 dedicated to the relationship of the three lead.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/JoshP./ Josh P.

    I know where we can put the Lawless discussion to bed: Tom Hardy is awesome in that movie. There, done. Also, just have to say that the funniest bit of this podcast for me was hearing Bard's disgust over Laremy only having two #GoodTweets. I got a really good laugh out of that moment.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      Tom Hardy was great in Lawless, we can definitely agree on that. :)

  • rafael 27

    Listener question:

    If you could go back in time for one day to experience a movie exactly like the people of that time did (so without all the knowledge you have of movies now). Which time and movie would you pick?

    Would you rather:

    Would you rather see a live-action version of UP by Michel Gondry or a live-action version of Wall-E by Ridley Scott

    Would you rather see Kar Wai Wong's 'The Grandmasters' in the original language without subtitles or dubbed in Swedish with english subtitles

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/chewbaca38/ chewbaca38

    Over/Under 20 years before another horror film wins best picture. I count Silence of the Lambs as the last one to do so.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/chewbaca38/ Baca

      Also if time, 9.5 total Oscars for the three Hobbit movies combined.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Cordia/ Cordia

    Personally i'm from Holland and i'm happy we get english titles for our movies, and subtitles and that it isn't dubbed or anything, i think that kills the movie experience for me. so i can't come up with some titles for Laremy to guess,

    with all the superhero movies out there, what is your favorite super hero, and why? and do the recent movies about superhero's influenced you opinion on this, maybe because the dark knight was so good you will like Batman more as a superhero?

    Over/Under

    29 million opening for Life of Pi
    Silver linings playbook makes 100 million domestic
    Brad reviews 80 movies next year
    Lincoln wins 3 oscars
    The average American eats 8 pounds of food on Thanksgiving
    Opening weekend: 195 million for the Hobbit ( i read pre-tickets sales are breaking records)
    2.5 movies that make more than 1 billion in 2013
    4,400 theaters for the hobbit opening weekend

    Buy/sells
    impossible will get more than 1 oscar nominations
    Christopher Nolans next film doesn't has multiple ways to look at the ending
    Keira Knightley wins an oscar in the next 10 years
    In the next 5 years, no more than 1 actor wins the oscar for best actor for not playing someone who has actually lived or still lives
    Facebook will not be the most used social network in 5 years from now
    we will see a Lance Armstrong biopic in the next 3 years
    There will be a sequel to Jack Reacher

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/the%20colleague/ the colleague

    Over/Under:
    - 1.5 over/unders before Laremy ends them with "this was over/unders, brought to you by "under", since it seems it's always brought by "over")

    Buy/Sell:
    - One/both of you will at some point refer to Star Wars as a nonology once the new trilogy gets released

    Watch This or Watch That (Kubrick vs. Kubrick):
    - Dr. Strangelove or 2001: A Space Odyssey
    - Eyes Wide Shut or A Clockwork Orange
    - Barry Lyndon or Spartacus
    - Full Metal Jacket or Apocalypse Now

  • jamie

    first time adding to the podcast discussion! look at me being a team player!

    listener question: does your personal views, or beliefs, make it difficult for you to unbiasedly review a film. i believe i've picked up hints brad, from listening to the podcasts, that you may be quite spiritual. (i think one example was in discussing nicole kidmans refusal to say the N-word, you mentioned that it would be difficult for you to say there was no god). so if that is the case, would you be able to properly review a film like bill mahers RELIGULOUS, or ricky gervais' THE INVENTION OF LYING.

    laremy: just because i find your fear of horror films endlessly fascinating...would you rather watch a bad horror film that is mildly scary, and almost impossible to sit though because it is so poorly executed...or an extremely well done one, that is terrifying? like oscar calibre everything...but you are in the theatre screaming.

    watch this or that (robert deniro)

    mean streets vs this boys life
    godfather 2 vs goodfellas
    taxi driver vs raging bull
    deer hunter vs untouchables
    midnight run vs cape fear
    heat vs silver linings

    *sorry i went heavy on that, but i couldn't think of one i didn't want to hear the answer to...

    • jamie

      so...i went back and actually READ the reviews of those two films i referenced in my question to you. that seems to be the easiest way to do things...it really helps me look like an idiot. so obviously, no. it didn't affect your ability. and on top of that you clearly state in your comment section that you aren't religious. so there. i'm really quite the investigator, aren't i.

      i did a bad research.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks

    Brad and Laremy, what are your top 5 psychological thriller movies? [Nav]

    I watched The Game last week and I am in a psychological thriller mood now. It Reminded me of Sixth Sense and Shutter Island. I am really hoping your top 5 will have movies that I have not watched yet.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Xarnis/ Xarnis

    Listener Question
    Having recently seen Lincoln, and seeing buzz around the web, it seems Daniel Day-Lewis is sure for an Oscar nomination, if not a win. And many people have praised Day-Lewis by calling him the greatest modern actor. Do you agree with this statement? Will Daniel Day-Lewis be remembered in 30 years like Marlon Brando is now? And if you don't agree do you think another actor full this spot? If so, who?

    Over/under
    6.5 Oscar nominations for Lincoln
    4 Oscar nominations for Hitchcock
    12 years until David O. Russel wins a Best Director Oscar
    22 years until the Marvel franchise is rebooted

    Buy or sell
    With only the movies that have been released now eligible, Lincoln wins Best Picture
    The Batman reboot flops
    Iron Man 3 turns out to be bad
    The Twilight series will be re-released in 3D
    3/4 of Gus Van Sant's next movies include Matt Damon
    Ben Affleck will win Best Director and Best actor for the same movie
    Tommy Lee Jones wins Best Supporting Actor for Lincoln

    Watch this or watch that classic monster movie edition
    The Wolf Man or The Creature from the Black Lagoon
    The Mummy or The Invisible Man
    Dracula or Frankenstein
    The Phantom of the Opera or Werewolf of London
    The Bride of Frankenstein or The Son of Frankenstein

    Would you rather
    Watch a movie about the creation of the Internet or the creation of film

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/GothamCity151/ GothamCity151

    Over/Under:
    5 years until Roger Deakins wins an Oscar
    1.5 more Oscar wins for Daniel Day-Lewis
    4,800 Hz for the pitch of Michael Sheen's squeal in 'Break Dawn - Part 2'
    7.5 pounds of food Brad and Laremy eat combined on Thanksgiving
    2.5 movie musicals green lit next year if 'Les Mis' is successful
    $27.5 million domestic opening weekend for 'Gangster Squad'

  • Trishana

    Would you rather:
    only be allowed to watch the first 20 minutes of a movie or the last 20 minutes of a movie?
    be allowed to watch movies in theatre only If they were in 3D or only watch any type of movie at home on a 15 inch tv?

    Watch this of watch that Movie Musicals Edition:
    The Sound of Music vs The Wizard of Oz
    Moulin Rouge vs Chicago
    Grease vs. West Side Story
    Mamma Mia vs Rock of Ages
    Hairspray vs. The Phantom of the Opera

    Buy or Sell:
    In 20 years, movies will only get R ratings and no NC-17 ratings.
    Brad will somehow lose the fall 2012 movie box office draft.
    In 30 years 3D becomes non existent and every movie is shot in IMAX.

  • http://www.seensome.com SeenSome

    Listener question:

    I've been writing reviews for just over a year now and still find it hard to put my own personality into my writing, how difficult is it for you guys and how long did it take for your style as a writer to develop?

    Which kind of reviews appeal to you more? Roger Ebert-style reviews that sound more conversational or a more formal review, like those found on Hollywood Reporter or Variety?

  • autinytim

    Just a small point, The Hopper commercials are a Boston, Southie accent not NYC

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/seanfast/ Sean Fast

      i was about to post that when i heard Brad call them a new york accent. I was offended! lol i checked the comments first though to see if anyone else felt the need to comment lol

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

        Yeah, I totally screwed that up. Don't know what I was thinking.

  • John Doe Snow

    Listener question:

    How much money do you think Cloud Atlas will need to be considered not a flop? The budget is $100 mil, and I'm hearing Warner Bros only invested $20 mil for distributing and promoting it in the main territories (USA, UK, Japan, ...). Does that mean it will only need $150-160 mil to be good considering the distribution in the other countries?

    Cloud Atlas didn't opened almost anywhere just yet, but in Russia it made 9 million dollars in just one week. In China I can only assume it will make a lot of money. I think it can even make some money here in Italy considering it will debut on the 3rd of January, which is a good date.
    160 overall is doable I think and I'm really hoping they can make it!

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Kaitlyn/ Kaitlyn

    Hey guys. I haven't listened to the whole podcast yet so maybe you figure this out by the end...but you mentioned wondering about O'Russel's experience with mental illness and at the screening I was at-at the Chicago International Film Festival-he mentioned his son has Bipolar Disorder. His son was actually in the movie too. He was that neighbor kid who kept trying to interview Cooper about mental illness.

  • http://www.seensome.com SeenSome

    By the way Laremy, you crushed it on the /filmcast this week. Thank God someone was there to balance out that discussion.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/G-Man/ G-Man

      Yes, agreed!

  • Fan

    Lol, Laremy for your next closing song it should be Warren G's Regulate.

    Here is the link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMZmzEpmiuA

    Listen Question:

    Just for fun if Hollywood was to make a movie about the Petraeus Scandal which actors would you guys choose to play Petraeus, Paula Broadwell, John R. Allen, and Jill Kelley.

  • http://www.theoriolereport.com Bob Phelan

    Buy or sell: Laremy will ever be asked back to do the /Filmcast. Your frustration seemed to hit cat 5. I'm sure you guys are alright but that was interesting. Do they only invite you when they know you have a contrary opinion to the film being discussed? (Take Shelter, Lincoln)

    Over/under: 7 - More colleges switch conferences by the end of 2013 (I can't believe Maryland is going to be in the Big 10... Florida State to the SEC?)

    Watch this/that:

    Gremlins or Gremlins 2
    Knocked Up or Superbad

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Criterion10/ Criterion10

    Listener Questions:
    As I continue to think about Skyfall, my opinion on the film has slightly diminished, mainly due to the fact that the film is rather derivative of other films. What other films can you think of where your inital, positive knee-jerk reaction slowly diminished?

    Buy/Sell:
    Criterion's new restoration of Heaven's Gate allows for a critical re-evaluation of the film and is hailed as a misunderstood masterpiece

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/G-Man/ G-Man

    I love the idea of doing a holiday show where you guys have guests and talk holiday movies.

    Hopefully I didn't miss the cutoff this week (not sure when you're recording). Looking forward to tomorrow's episode as I travel back home for Thanksgiving.

    Questions:

    - Do you guys ever like arguing / debating movies with other people who think differently? Obviously B&L both generally have the same taste, but upon listening to Laremy "crush it" on the SlashfilmCast I gotta get your guys' opinions.

    Why does Laremy like to sit in the"far left, last row" of the theatre (based on Filmdrunk article)? Brad - where is your preferred spot? Personally I always try to sit directly center-screen more towards the back.

    Over / Under (Daniel Day-Lewis edition):

    - 11 years before Daniel Day-Lewis stars in a comedy
    - 3 more movies Daniel Day-Lewis does before he works with Nolan, Fincher, or Tarantino

    Would you rather:

    - Watch "The Lorax" with your families on Thanksgiving or have to listen to an annoying relative's stories for two hours

    - Read a 5,000 word article on something you were interested in or write a 5,000 word article on something you were interested in