Podcast: Reviewing 'Jack the Giant Slayer' and 'Stoker', Spring 2013 Box-Office Draft and More

Plus, why is Anne Hathaway getting so much hate?

Rope of Silicon PodcastA busy, busy episode this Friday with reviews of Jack the Giant Slayer and Stoker, our first official sponsorship and a Box-Office challenge recap and the Spring 2013 Box-Office Draft. We also get into why Anne Hathaway is being targeted so much, your questions and voicemails, plus, as always, Buy or Sell, Playing the Percentages and Over / Under only this time we have some new bumpers supplied by Rudie Obias.

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  • 00:00-00:48 - Introduction
  • 00:49-4:09 - Show notes
  • 4:10-5:26 - PODCAST SPONSORSHIP - Visit TimeForaFilm.com
  • 5:27-6:00 - More show notes and EPayne's voicemail
  • 6:01-11:14 - Why do people hate Anne Hathaway?
  • 11:15-12:56 - [Listener Question] Many people are calling Argo one of the "worst best picture winners." Do you agree with this statement? And why do you think people are saying this about Argo? [Xarnis]
  • 12:57-21:17 - [Listener Voicemail] Tim Mike - Oscar ratings up... Why?
  • 21:18-24:42 - Jack the Giant Slayer review (read Brad's review here)
  • 24:43-28:28 - Stoker review (read Brad's review here)
  • 28:29-48:48 - Box-Office Challenge Update and Spring 2013 Draft
  • 48:49-54:36 - Comment on a Comment
  • 54:37-57:33 - [Listener Voicemail] Alvin - The Call
  • 57:34-1:01:32 - [Listener Voicemail] Frank - Brave
  • 1:01:33-1:14:31 - [Listener Voicemail] lalecture - favorite directors / studios that give directors greatest amount of freedom
  • 1:14:32-1:25:49 - Over / Under (with intro from Rudie Obias)
    • C Laremy gives The Smurfs 2 [Ryguy815]
    • C grade from Brad for Amazing Spider-Man 2 [Ron O'Neal Fresh]
    • 1.5 Oscar noms for Twelve Years A Slave [Ron O'Neal Fresh]
    • 25 years before Laremy gives a Horror picture an A+ [Ron O'Neal Fresh]
    • 1.5 Oscar nominations for Only God Forgives [Xarnis]
    • B grade for 'The Monuments Men' [Xarnis]
    • 1.5 hosts for next year's Oscar Ceremony [Oyid]
    • $500 fee for Brad to review RoS user's films. [Ingmar]
    • 5 years before Brad sings on the podcast. [Ingmar]
    • 15 years before there will be a film to pull off an Oscar sweep of the "Big 5" (Best Picture, Actress/Actor, Screenplay and Director). The last film to do this was The Silence of the Lambs. [Trishana]
    • 10 more years of the Rope of Silicon podcast. [Trishana]
    • C+ for Oz: The Great and Powerful [Driver]
    • 3 best picture nominees released in the first half of the year (Festivals count as releases) [Driver]
  • 1:25:50-1:30:28 - Buy or Sell
    • The Oscars will change the Best Director category to automatically match the Best Picture nominees.
    • Jessica Chastain becomes the new Meryl Streep. [Xarnis]
    • The Lone Ranger will NOT be a steaming pile of mediocrity. [Ron O'Neal Fresh]
    • Laremy and Brad both win 2 box office drafts in 2013
    • Laremy does better than Brad with his Oscar predictions for the next Oscars
    • The Hangover Part 3 outgrosses The Hangover Part 2 at the box office
    • Die Hard 6 gets made.
  • 1:30:29-1:34:54 - Playing the Percentages (with intro from Rudie Obias)
    • % chance that Adele will become an E.G.O.T. winner [marlonwallace]
    • % chance that an animated film will ever be nominated for Best Cinematography [marlonwallace]
    • % chance that both Iron Man 3 and Thor: The Dark World are better than The Avengers [Ryguy815]
    • % chance the Arrested Development movie becomes the first real comedy to get a best picture nom [Silrian]
    • % chance Christoph Waltz will win a 3rd Oscar for a non-Tarantino movie. [Trishana]
    • % chance of an obvious Best Director snub at the 2014 Oscars. [Trishana]
  • 1:34:55-1:36:48 - #GoodTweets
  • 1:36:49-1:37:41 - [Listener Question] Is there a female director besides Bigelow that has the potential (quality and popularity) to win an Oscar in the near future? [Jennifer]
  • 1:37:42-1:43:12 - Random Stats
  • 1:43:13-1:46:05 - Closing

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Winter 2013 Movie Box-Office Draft
Brad vs. Laremy

Laremy's Picks
MovieDateBudgetBox-OfficeCurrent Total
Promised LandJan 4$15m$7.5m-$29.9m
The Last StandJan 18$45m$31.3m-$81.1m
Movie 43Jan 25$6m$23.1m$8.1m
Hansel and Gretel: Witch HuntersJan 25$50m$163.8m$38.8m
Stand Up GuysFeb 1$15m$3.2m-$34.2m
Side EffectsFeb 8$30m$26m-$48.9m
Beautiful CreaturesFeb 13$60m$31.1m-$118.8m
Escape from Planet EarthFeb 14$40m$36m-$63.9m
A Good Day To Die HardFeb 14$92m$186.9m-$43m
Dark SkiesFeb 22$3.5m$9.5m$785k
Brad's Picks
MovieDateBudgetBox-OfficeCurrent Total
Texas Chainsaw 3DJan 4$20m$34.3m-$15.6m
Gangster SquadJan 11$60m$96m-$53.9m
Broken CityJan 18$35m$19.6m-$67.8m
MamaJan 18$15m$97.8m$60.3m
ParkerJan 25$30m$17.4m-$57.5m
Warm BodiesFeb 1$30m$82.8m$7.8m
Bullet to the HeadFeb 1$55m$9.4m-$128m
Identity ThiefFeb 8$35m$97.7m$10.2m
Safe HavenFeb 14$28m$50m-$19.9m
SnitchFeb 22$35m$15.9m-$71.5m

The Winter 2013 Movie Box-Office Draft competition involved both Brad and Laremy "drafting" ten films each in hopes of scoring the largest net total by taking a film's worldwide gross subtracting two-and-a-half-times the reported budget. The film must be released in January and February of 2013. The draft took place on December 21, 2012 during the RopeofSilicon Podcast which you can listen to right here.

Listed above is all the most recent data as of this post. Budgetary information is not necessarily accurate and will most likely not be accurate until closer to or after each film's release.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/JoshP./ Josh P.

    "Local Control" sounds like an entry to the game you play where you come up with the name of your fictional band. I laughed so hard at that.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Jennifer/ Jennifer

    We've seen some young actors and actresses have success at the Oscars (Tatum O'Neal and Anna Paquin winning, Hailee Steinfeld, Abigail Breslin, and Quvenzhané Wallis getting nominations.), while other great performances by young actors/actresses have not been recognized (only one that comes to mind is Dakota Fanning). Has there been a great performance by a child actor/actress that you would have liked to see get an Oscar nomination/win?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/DiscoPaco/ Disco Paco

    Listener Question - Disco Paco

    As bloated and self-congratulatory as the Oscars can be the nice thing about them is that once a year mainstream culture is talking movies. Even though the Academy is toothless and rewards consensus filmmaking every once in a while there's a silver lining. For example, the Oscars for 2010 had Winter's Bone nominated for Best Picture and also Jennifer Lawrence. Because of this a lot of regular folk were exposed and some checked out the film. Also, Lawrence's career took off from the nominations. Last year, you can say that with The Artist's big victories the country was talking about or at least exposed to a silent b/w movie. My question is what similar story or exposure do you think this past Oscar highlighted? Did anyone's career get a big boost or did any little movie get big exposure in a way that it wouldn't have had it not been nominated? [Disco Paco]

  • http://timeforafilm.com Alex Thomas

    Wooo thanks for the sponsorship guys! Extra proud to be the first 'official' one. "When your wondering what time it is, it's time for a film" cracked me up. As well as Laremy's shock that anyone actually comments on my site, I am shocked too Laremy!

    Did do quite well with the Oscar Betting (Brave didn't win me anything as it was always favourite in the betting so I didn't bet on it) but Argo at 8-1 was my big win, I went back for more at 4-1 after SAG's. Happy times. Also, for anyone interested here's some 2012 highlights of AFL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl2uAJi6fLg

    I didn't hate Project X, but I think 21 and Over is going to be a fail. Are you guys planning on seeing this? Will throw in a Over/Under.
    Over/Under: C+ for 21 and Over [Alex Thomas]

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

      I asked Brad if he was planning on seeing 21 And Over and he isn't but I'm not sure about Laremy.

      • http://timeforafilm.com Alex Thomas

        Cool, I still think I might see it myself.

  • http://moviebuffhaven.com Drew

    Listener Question:
    I got into a rather heated debate the other day with some of my cousins over Django Unchained. They believed that Django is a bad film due to how unrealistic it is (they mentioned a scene at the end where a character is shot and moves in a way that seems improbable). I was just wondering what you all think is the importance of realism in a movie, does it even matter, and should that affect your opinion of it

  • The Dude

    Great choice on Pain and Gain, Brad. That should have been the #1 pick. Mark my words... that movie will make an absolute killing.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks

    Whose Line Is It Anyway is coming back!! Anybody else excited for this?

  • JN Films

    I apologize Brad and Laremy for not submitting any questions for the past 2 weeks because I have and am in production for my next film. Just saying you guys are awesome :)

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      Nice, good luck!

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks


    Avatar 2 will be the first movie ever to hit 3 Billion in worldwide box office (Avatar made 2.78 Billion) [Nav]

    Avatar 2 will beat the opening weekend record (whatever the record is before it releases. Right now it's The Avengers with 207 Million) [Nav]

    Buy/Sell (Same things buy/sell version. So you can pick)

    Avatar 2 will be the first movie ever to hit 3 Billion in worldwide box office (Avatar made 2.78 Billion) [Nav]

    Avatar 2 will beat the opening weekend record (whatever the record is before it releases. Right now it's The Avengers with 207 Million) [Nav]

    I would love to see Avatar 2 beat all worldwide box office record making the top 3 spots being all Cameron movies.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks

      .... Sorry! forgot about the format



      3 Billion in worldwide box office for Avatar 2 (Avatar made 2.78 Billion) [Nav]

      220 Miilion opening weekend for Avatar 2 (Right now it's The Avengers with 207 Million) [Nav]

      I know opening weekend for Avatar was only $77 Million. But in it's defense, nobody expected it to be that appealing and a game changer in tech. Especially visually.

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks

        Just in case one of the argument you use when answering it is that Avatar had a re-release.... I just want to say that the re-release did not contribute much. Here is some numbers.

        "During its 12-week re-release, Avatar: Special Edition grossed an additional $10.74 million in North America and $22.46 million overseas for a worldwide total of $33.2 million"

        That's nothing compared to its total 2.78 Billion.

  • Essie Yessie

    I understand that it's very easy to straw man me for my comments because I agree there is a hint of disdain in them but you are being overly defensive.

    1. I'll start by saying I wasn't attacking you, and while I was also being defensive, I think I did it in much more level headed, and calm way.

    2. I'm not 'pretending' anything. I've never read your reviews nor do I read the articles on your site. I've listened to your podcast a handful of times as way to past time during work; I was interested in the awards talk, don't really enjoy the way you guys bypass deep film discussion so I never checked out your writing. Again, this isn't a slam it's just a comment.

    3. I'm not being hypocritical because I didn't question the authenticity of your love for Django Unchained I merely pointed out the fact that Carax works in a similar head space as Tarantino, and perhaps if you returned to his film willing to do a little bit more work you'd find the same level of joy that I did.

    4. I don't believe I'm better than anyone, you started out the negativity by implying that anyone who loved Holy Motors was insincere in their love. Which, is typically a defensive mechinicism for people who feel lesser than others when they can't understand a work of art. You saying I think I'm better than you is perhaps you projecting your own feelings of insecurity surrounding the fact that many of your piers were able to see the artistry in Holy Motors and you were not.

    5. "This is the exact person who I'm discussing, the person who is going to take offense to something and feel they need to defend it. When what are you defending? Who are you defending against?" Says the man slamming a commenter on his website that didn't like Django Unchained. But, yes clearly I am the hypocrite. ^_^

    6. I don't really remember what I wrote but I never said don't attack me. Also, you do realize you're a paid movie critic, yes? I'm a film fan, I don't get paid nor do I write about film. I'm coming to your website to express my love for a film and defend it to a critic...that's you. If you're so closed off to the idea of someone coming at one of your opinions try a new job, maybe? I'd also say if you're going to complain about someone taking a 60 second soundbite out of context maybe add "if you want to hear more of my thoughts on Holy Motors check out my article..." or you could not be lazy during your podcast, or you could not do a podcast at all.

    7. Nuance, stop it.

    8. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings or something. I don't believe I was acting juvenile, if I was I understand your opinion. I enjoy your podcast at times, I think you know your awards stuff. I think it's rather silly to spend 5 minutes chewing someone out for being passionate. I appreciate you taking the time to comment on my comment. I didn't find it offensive, nor insightful, just somewhat sad that someone who gets paid to talk about movies can stomp their feet and pout and then ask people to donate them some money for doing so. Keep up the good work and I hope I didn't cause you too much distress.

  • Essie Yessie

    and, yes I realize I spelled peers and probably a lot of others words wrong in there. I was in a bit of a rush, I apologize if it sloppy or poorly written.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

      Maybe just stop slamming Brad just because you liked a movie that he didn't.

  • Aidan

    10% chance there is an Oscar nomination for visual effects for Jack The Giant Slayer
    Buy or Sell:
    There will be a Jack The Giant Slayer sequel

  • Ryguy815

    Hey Brad, I just wanted to say thanks for using some of my Over/Under's, Buy Or Sell's and Playing The Percentages. I'll be sure to recommend some every week. Also, I know that The Smurfs 2 thing was a bit random, it just mind of popped into my head.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

    Hey Brad, I just wanted to say thanks for using some of my Over/Under's, Buy Or Sell's and Playing The Percentages. I will be sure to try and recommend some every week. Also, I know that The Smurfs 2 thing was random but it just popped into my head, so I decided to use it.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

    Playing the percentages
    - % on Rotten Tomatoes for The Heat
    - % chance that Micheal Bay makes Transformers 5 and 6
    - % chance Brad sees Grown Ups 2.

    - C+ grade from both Brad and Laremy for The Incredible Burt Wonderstone.
    - B grade from Brad for Grown Ups 2.

    Buy Or Sell
    - Brad enjoys Ted 2.
    - Identity Thief 2 gets made and Laremy enjoys it.
    - The Internship ends up being better than Wedding Crashers and also outgrosses it at the box office
    - A sequel to Project X gets made by 2015..

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

      I also thought of another playing the percentages
      -% chance that both Brad and Laremy enjoy The Call

  • Anthony K in LA

    2 to 3 more Die Hard films!. Hear me out:

    Die Hard - John McClane saves a building
    Die Hard 2 - John McClane saves an airport (a building with a lot more people)
    Die Hard 3 - John McClane saves New York (a city)
    Die Hard 4 - John McClane saves the entire East Coast (multiple cities)
    Die Hard 5 - John McClane saves Russia (an entire country!)

    Do you see the pattern? Therefore:
    Die Hard 6 - John McClane saves a continent (probably Australia)
    Die Hard 7 - John McClane saves the planet
    Die Hard 8 - John McClane saves the universe!

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

    Over Unders:
    1.5 more Die Hard movies. [Corbin]
    3.5 years until the uses of 'swag' and 'yolo' go away. [Corbin]
    60 million domestic for The Incredible Burt Wonderstone. [Corbin]
    2.5 Oscar nods for Fassbender during his career. [Corbin]

    Buy or Sells:
    Either Brad or Laremy enjoys Olympus Has Fallen. [Corbin]

    Playing dem Percents:
    % chance that Jack the Giant Slayer sunk Laremy's spring draft. [Corbin]
    % chance that Spring Breakers is a surprise hit at the box office. [Corbin]
    % chance that Bradley Cooper never gets another Oscar nod. [Corbin]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

    Also, does anybody want to do a box office draft with me?

    • http://moviebuffhaven.com Drew

      I'll take you on

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

        ok, I can have two going on. Do you want to go first, or do you want me to go first?

        • http://www.moviebuffhaven.com Drew Koenig

          You can go first

          • http://www.moviebuffhaven.com Drew

            Can I assume that you're picking Pain and Gain for this one too?

            • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

              Yes I am. If you don't want to wait a long time I suggest we continue this by email. If we do, my email is thedarkandgrittysequel@gmail.com where it will be much quicker. Now it's your turn to choose two.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

      I've never understood this, does the loser have to pay the winner actual money? If not
      than yes.

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

        No that doesn't have to happen. Do you want to go first or do you want me to go first.

        • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

          You can go first.

          • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

            Ok, I'll take Pain and Gain.

          • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

            Have you decided what film your choosing?

            • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

              I commented on it an hour ago. I guess I should have told both you and Drew that my comments have to get moderated, otherwise, they go in to spam.

              • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

                Ok, so do I get to pick two now?

        • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

          Are we still doing the draft?

          • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

            If I'm able to pick 2, I'll take Evil Dead and The Incredible Burt Wonderstone.

            • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

              yes we are, although we may want to do it through email. mine is thedarkandgrittysequel@gmail.com if you decide to do that. As for my next two, I'll take Oz: The Great & Powerful and Oblivion.

              • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

                Did you receive my email?

              • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

                yes i did, and I just sent you one.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

    Listener Questions

    To Laremy: We all know that Brad's front runner to win best picture at the next Oscars is The Monuments Men and I was wondering, what do you think will win best picture at the next Oscars?

    To Brad: Brad, I was wondering, why did you name the site rope of silicon?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/the%20colleague/ the colleague

    This is in relation to your discussion a few podcasts ago about the validity of enjoying bad movies. I've recently watched Speed 2, a legitimately bad movie. Yet, it was surprisingly enjoyable, mainly due to the fact that Willem Dafoe goes all out, chewing the scenery at each and every turn, with such glee in his eyes you get the impression he's loving every minute of it. In a case such as this, is it fair to say an actor has given a bad performance when he or she is clearly in on the joke, and is tailoring the performance to the [u]actual[/u] tone of the movie, instead of the one filmmakers [u]think[/u] they're making? [the colleague]

    - there will [u]ever[/u] be a tie for Best Picture at the Oscars [the colleague]
    - there will be no clear winner in Grudge Match between De Niro and Stallone [the colleague]

    Playing the Percentages:
    - % chance Cuaron's Gravity ends up being too esoteric for general audiences [the colleague]
    - % chance Kathryn Bigelow's next movie earns a score of 90 or more on Metacritic (The Hurt Locker got 94, while Zero Dark Thirty is at 95) [the colleague]

    Would You Rather:
    - lose an arm wrestle to a famous woman working in the industry (i.e. Kathryn Bigelow) or to your respective better halves [the colleague]
    - be in charge of someone else's political campaign or be the politician campaigning [the colleague]
    - a projector crashes during screening of your most anticipated movie of the year or your laptop freezes while you're researching/writing a big article [the colleague]
    - write someone else's biography or someone else write your biography [the colleague]
    - be a very successful shadow writer or write your own material, without much success [the colleague]
    - direct a very profitable, but bad movie or direct a critical darling that very few people see [the colleague]
    - direct a remake/reboot of a very popular property (like Zach Snyder with Man of Steel) or direct a sequel after the original director has left the series (like Shane Black with Iron Man 3) [the colleague]
    - be nominated for an Oscar in the same category alongside Daniel Day-Lewis or in the same category alongside a Pixar movie [the colleague]

  • Oyid

    "Tim Mike" is a Frotcast reference. Their first e-mails were signed by either Mike or Tim, and so the Frotsmen would joke that all their listeners were named Mike or Tim, and so the listeners started signing all e-mails as combinations of the two names.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      Ha, that's great! I clearly need to listen to the Frotcast more often.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Cordia/ Cordia

    Can't believe both of you didn't mention Martin Scorsese as one of Your favourite or best Directors, not saying he is the #1 director of all time but if you mention so many names and not mention Scorsese? He is making good movies for almost 40 years now Taxi Driver, Raging Bull , Goodfellas and more recently Gangs of new york, the aviator, the departed and Shutter Island. Even Hugo wasn't bad. So did you forget him or think he doesn't make good movies?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Aleonardis/ Aleonardis

    I don't want to further the Holy Motors too much since Brad is obviously very angry about it...but...I should say that it just so happens to be my favorite film of 2012. I take offense to Essie Yessie's reductive nature on Brad's opinion. Holy Motors, for a film so lovingly about film and filmgoing and the respect of it's world, Essie Yessie's attack is adverse to what is so important about Holy Motors. While I don't particularly love Django, I'm not going to sit here and spit on Brad's opinion. That's not what film culture is about at all. Unless you're on IMDB.

    Oscar hosts just aren't working for the past few years. Who do you guys think would work and entertain. Other than Fey and Poehler, who I don't think are right choices either way seeing as they're TV stars, I think Wiig and Rudolph are a great pair. A nice oddball choice for solo is Kevin Spacey. That would be fun. Thoughts? [Aleonardis]

    Playing the Percentages
    -% chance Man of Steel gets a top tier Oscar nomination. [Aleonardis]
    -% chance Evil Dead gets a makeup nomination [Aleonardis]

  • Zack Sparrow

    Laremy, why on earth did you take Jack the Giant Slayer? Kiss the win goodbye...

  • Stephen

    Haha exactly Zack. I think Laremy is an awesome dude but he ALWAYS chooses at least one film in his box office draft that makes me slap my head in dismay. Jack the Giant Slayer?! That had 'Bomb' written all over it.

  • http://www.seensome.com SeenSome

    The Brave discussion continue to be really frustrating. I get that you guys didn't like it but to continually dismiss it as a terrible film - which obviously it isn't - is way off base. I know you guys are smart enough to know the difference between a really terrible movie and one that just didn't work for you personally but quite often you dismiss good or decent films with flippant comments and mockery because you didn't like them.

    To say defenders of Brave never come up with any reason as to why it's good is unfair, particularly when you guys often slate the film without giving any further insight other than jokes about bears.

    For me, Brave was a well-paced and incredibly entertaining film with gorgeous visuals, big laughs and a really well drawn central relationship that is reminiscent of many teenagers relationships with their parents. It is a little old school going down the princess route but the spin on it here is that she doesn't care about being a princess, she wants to do her own thing and follow her own path which is what causes friction with her mother. I'm not calling this a great feminist movie or anything but it's certainly not another story of a princess sitting in a tower waiting to be rescued.

    I also think to dismiss the film based on Pixar's other work is unfair. So it isn't as good as Wall-E, a film that's probably an A+. That doesn't make it bad, it just means it isn't as good.

    Anyway, that's my piece, hopefully not construed as an attack. I appreciate the work you guys do on the podcast and elsewhere.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      Definitely not taken as an attack. All I will say though is the only reason we brought it up is because it was brought up. Though, don't get me wrong, I love a little QueenBear convo. :)

  • http://www.seensome.com SeenSome

    Also, to weigh in on the Oscar host discussion, I think the Hathaway/Franco formula was a good one but the personnel they chose didn't work out, mainly due to Franco. I'd love to see another pairing of young, talented actors given the job: Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Emma Stone. Both are massively popular, endlessly charming and have had strong hosting stints on SNL in the past. I think they could pull off some good zingers without coming across as mean-spirited.

    Maybe another option would be to just go with someone safe and affable, keep them in the background while allowing more time for comedy presenters ie. Ferrell and Wiig at the Globes this year, and let them get the laughs. The thing that struck me about this years Oscars was the lack of any memorable presenters. The Rudd/McCarthy thing didn't work at all and The Avengers was a disaster.

  • Oyid

    Buy or sell: a voice performance ever gets a major acting award.

    Buy or sell: facing changing demographics, in the next few years the academy moves to make it *harder* to vote for awards, so as to secure the Oscars as a haven for old, white and rich opinions. These regulations only get tougher as younger members speak out, marking a clear path towards Oscar irrelevance and oblivion, spurring some other awards show to take its place in the cultural landscape. This show could be, for example, the Golden Globes, thus ending the dream for a democratic awards show among the artists themselves.

    Question: was it good for the Oscars to open the Best Documentary category for all voters? Or did the integrity of the award suffer as a result of uninformed voting? Do you think this criticism applies to all categories and the Oscars in general?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/AndrewJ.S./ Andrew J.S.

    Maybe you were doing this anyways with you oscar preview this week, but I think it would be fun if both you guys gave your cold turky oscar picks on the podcast, just to see how they match up in a year.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      I will be posting mine next week, so we'll probably get into it more after that.

  • http://letterboxd.com/gman/ G-Man

    Over / Under:

    $16.7 million - Friday's domestic box office for Oz the Great and Powerful (this was the total domestic gross for The Wizard of Oz) [G-Man]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Cordia/ Cordia


    125 million Dollar loss for Laremy on Jack the giant slayer in the box office draft [Cordia]
    725 million worldwide for Oz the great but not so powerful [Cordia]
    1.5 best picture nominees Brad did not include in his 40 movie oscar candidate preview [Cordia]

    playing them percents
    % chance the rumor about Bale coming back as Batman, Nolan producing and Snyder directing the Justice Leaque is true.[Cordia]
    % chance, Laremy wins the spring box office draft.[Cordia]
    % chance Brad records some podcasts from Cannes [Cordia]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Cordia/ Cordia


    an actor who has never won an oscar before will win best actor next year [Cordia]
    The councelor will be nominated for best picture [Cordia]
    Oz will be fresh on rt [Cordia]

  • Jeff

    What is your reference for budget information? I previously thought you went with boxofficemojo as your default reference, but here you disagree with boxofficemojo on Warm Bodies (bom says $35m) and Parker (bom says $35m), and on the fall draft you had Alex Cross at $23m (bom says $35m). I'm interested because I like to keep track of the stats as well. Do you have a particular order of reference? Boxoffice.com? Wikipedia? Or does boxofficemojo just say $35m if they don't know?

  • http://www.everyeliakazanmovie.blogspot.ca/ IngmarTheBergman

    I seriously hope I'm not too late!

    Play the Percents:
    % chance that someone tracks Brad down at Tiff. (IngmarTheBergman)
    % chance that Brad decides not to post his Tiff schedule because of that comment. (IngmarTheBergman)