Podcast: Reviewing 'Captain Phillips' and 'Machete Kills' and Announce 'Safe Haven' Winner

We have a winner!

Rope of Silicon PodcastWith so many questions from the listeners coming in Laremy and I are reinvigorated as we get to as many of your questions and game submissions as we can while also reviewing Machete Kills and Captain Phillips. On top of that today we also announce the winner of the listener Safe Haven review contest. I won't announce the winner's name here, you'll have to listen, but to the one that won, shoot me an email at webmaster@ropeofsilicon.com and I'll get your prize out to you ASAP.

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  • 00:00-1:27 - Introduction
  • 1:28-3:26 - Show notes
  • 3:27-14:10 - Laremy's little argument
  • 14:11-22:41 - Sort of a #GoodComment
  • 22:42-24:42 - Clarifying Pedro's question from last podcast
  • 24:43-26:23 - [Listener Question] Regarding Gravity's box office success this past weekend, the big story seems to be audiences opting in mass for the 3D. But I also wonder how much of its success may also be due to its shorter running time, with theaters being able to show the film more times than what seems to be a traditional 2 1/2 hour movie. Considering the current trend of longer movies these days, do you think studios might take this as a lesson to make shorter movies, much like the 3D craze after Avatar? [Josh P.]
  • 26:24-28:54 - Box-Office Challenge Update (chart below)
  • 28:55-31:11 - [Listener Question] Do you think that sometimes movies get hyped up too much as "Oscar movies"? For example "Diana" was considered an Oscar worthy movie until people actually saw it just based on the subject matter. [B. Smith]
  • 31:12-32:51 - [Listener Question] In response to my criticism for one of my least favorite 2013 titles, someone told me that I need to look at the movie differently to enjoy it. For example, I wasn't looking for the symbolism or true underlying message. How do you guys feel when someone says "you need to look at the movie this way" after you express that you didn't like a movie? Is that even relevant? Shouldn't my opinion and thoughts on whether a film is good or bad be based on my personal interpretation and thoughts on the movie? [G-Man]
  • 32:52-35:05 - [Listener Question] Do you think Gravity's immense success both critically and commercially is going to positively or negatively affect the future of movies. Though I am exceedingly happy at its success but I am also little worried that its success might instigate a barrage of 3D films and obviously since not every director is Cuaron, most of those films are going to be bad. On the other hand, success of Gravity might also inspire other film-makers to be brave and try more daring stuff. [Gautam Anand]
  • 35:06-39:12 - [Listener Question] I was listening to the Frotcast the other day and Vince said something to the effect of, "the reason I do film criticism is because I think I'm better at it than 98% of the other critics out there." Do you gentlemen think you are better at your job than the majority of film critics? [Hrtn4Sqrtn]
  • 39:13-41:05 - [Listener Question] Tarantino's list of top 10 movies was the inspiration for this question. If an acclaimed director/actor/writer were to quit performing/directing/writing films and focus all their energies on film criticism, would their opinion on films be more valid than your average film critic? [Hrtn4Sqrtn]
  • 41:06-42:44 - [Listener Question] Do you believe that review aggregating websites such as Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic have devalued contemporary film criticism, and if so, what are some movies which you feel are greatly overrated by one or both of these sites? [TheOneWhoKnocks]
  • 42:45-46:34 - [Listener Question] "Fanboys" have clearly done an excellent job making many of us less enthusiastic about the movies. At one point, I might have gotten excited about a new AVENGERS movie or a new project from Christopher Nolan, but now, I'm generally apathetic. I feel as if casual film fans often over-hype everything, making me more and more irritated with the objects of their admiration as a result. What are some instances where "fanboys" or overzealous movie lovers made you less interested in a particular project? [TheOneWhoKnocks]
  • 46:35-47:14 - [Listener Question] Why is it that a director gets a lot of the credit or blame for the success of a film, but the writing staff is typically credited for the success of a TV show? [Jon Sullivan]
  • 47:15-52:00 - [Listener Voicemail] Greta - "American Horror Story"
  • 52:01-54:51 - [Listener Voicemail] One bad scene in a movie
  • 54:52-59:05 - Machete Kills review (read Brad's review here)
  • 59:06-1:10:47 - Captain Phillips review (read Brad's review here)
  • 1:10:48-1:19:05 - Over / Under
    • $50 million dollars Laremy wins the box office challenge by [Ben Kelly]
    • A- for American Hustle [Chris]
    • D+ grade for "Curse of Chucky" [G-Man]
    • 10.5 more Angry Brad rants until the end of the year [the colleague]
    • 6.5 Oscar noms for Lone Survivor [Max]
    • 5.5 more games this year The Miami Dolphins win [Hrtn4Sqrtn]
    • 5 years until Alfonso Cuaron directs another movie [Carlos]
    • 4.5 A+ films for Brad in 2013 [Topy XYZ]
    • 2.5 total Oscar nominations for Saoirse Ronan [Seensome]
    • 2 more ‘Review the Movie’ games (Safe Haven Contest) in 2014 [Driver]
    • 2 episodes of CW dramas that Brad watched before derisively dismissing them last podcast [Brian]
    • .5 proper names of which Laremy's pronunciation upsets Brad this year [Nardog]
  • 1:19:06-1:24:25 - Buy or Sell
    • 10 years until Blu-rays are phased out and another format takes over. [Ctrice]
    • A movie that hasn't been released yet ends up winning Best Picture.
    • Both "Wolf of Wall Street" and "Monuments Men" are considered a bit of a let down and get mixed reactions.
    • Brad does not give an A+ to the film that will end up being his #1 by the end of the year [Max]
    • A Quentin Tarantino movie ever wins Best Picture and Best Director [Max]
    • Last Vegas scores a higher CinemaScore than 47 Ronin [the colleague]
  • 1:24:26-1:30:29 - Playing the Percentages
    • % chance the two of you have yet to see your number one film of the year [Steve Crobie]
    • % chance Brad and Laremy make us watch The Host for the next "Voicemail Review Challenge" [tonypdl]
    • % chance the Oscars is ever hosted outside the US [andyluvsfilms]
    • % chance Ben Affleck gets a Best Director nom for Live by Night [Hudsucker]
    • % chance of Laremy changing his Anonymous avatar on the site [Ctrice]
    • % chance Hanks beats Ejiofor [Travis C.]
    • % chance Bullock doesn't get nominated for Best Actress [Gautam]
    • % chance Pedro can come up with another 0 percent [Pedro]
    • % chance American Hustle doesn't make Brad's top five at the end of the year [TheOneWhoKnocks]
  • 1:30:30-1:32:33 - #GoodTweets
  • 1:32:34-1:38:32 - Safe Haven contest winner (The winner can email webmaster@ropeofsilicon.com to claim his/her prize)
  • 1:38:33-1:40:39 - Closing

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Fall 2013 Box-Office Draft
Brad vs. Laremy

Laremy's Picks
MovieDateBudgetBox-OfficeCurrent Total
GravityOct 4$100m$102.1m-$147.8m
Ender's GameNov 1   
Inside Llewyn DavisDec 6   
The Hobbit: The Desolation of SmaugDec 13   
The Monuments MenDec 18   
Anchorman: The Legend ContinuesDec 20   
Walking with DinosaursDec 20   
Jack RyanDec 25   
The Secret Life of Walter MittyDec 25   
August: Osage CountyDec 25   
47 RoninDec 25   
Brad's Picks
MovieDateBudgetBox-OfficeCurrent Total
Insidious: Chapter 2Sep 13$5m$102m$89.5m
Battle of the YearSep 20$20m$9.5m-$40.4m
Machete KillsOct 11   
Jackass Presents: Bad GrandpaOct 25   
Last VegasNov 1   
Thor: The Dark WorldNov 8   
The Wolf of Wall StreetNov 15   
The Hunger Games: Catching FireNov 22   
FrozenNov 27   
Saving Mr. BanksDec 13   
American HustleDec 13   

The Fall 2013 Movie Box-Office Draft competition involved both Brad and Laremy "drafting" ten films each in hopes of scoring the largest net total by taking a film's worldwide gross subtracting two-and-a-half-times the reported budget. The film must be released in September through December 2013. The draft took place on August 20, 2013 during the RopeofSilicon Podcast which you can listen to right here.

Listed above is all the most recent data as of this post. Budgetary information is not necessarily accurate and will most likely not be accurate until closer to or after each film's release.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Adu/ Adu

    So I had to stop listening to the podcast just to post this...that GoodComments person...just WOW...now that is what a living nightmare qualifies as!...back to the p-cast :)

  • http://cineenuruguay.com/ Driver

    Brad watches 2 more episodes of The Blacklist before giving up on the series [Driver]
    5 different aircraft carriers in Transformers 4 [Driver]

    Buy or Sell:
    We will have another John Carter/Lone Ranger flop next year [Driver]
    The money coming from the paid podcast will be for building the Podcast Mansion [Driver]
    Laremy paints his floor yellow [Driver]

    Playing the Percentages:
    %chance of having 10 best picture candidates this year [Driver]

    Since the Safe Haven contest is over, I have to throw this one again: http://s22.postimg.org/f2irh2yf5/Safe_Haven_Poster_original.jpg

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Hudsucker/ Hudsucker

    Hey Brad I just saw the fountain. I thought it was good (B-). What do you think of it? Did you feel the story set in the past didn't really fit like i did?
    0.5 Oscar nominations for The Book Thief [Hudsucker]
    Sin City 2 is good [Hudsucker]
    Dem Percentages
    % on RT for The Zero Theorem [Hudsucker]

    What would you say has been the least deserved Oscar win for this millennium?

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/andyluvsfilms/ andyluvsfilms

      B- for The Fountain!? OUT!! ;-)

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Hudsucker/ Hudsucker

        I liked the doctor and space monk parts, but the Mayan part was really underdeveloped. I felt as if the message that part was trying to tell didn't really coincide with the other 2 films.


        I also felt when the space monk appeared to save him from the flaming sword it was a bit of a cop out. It didn't really make that much sense that he could suddenly appear there. I would have preferred he was killed and waited for his queen in the afterlife. THAT would've brought up to an B+ or maybe even A- for me. Hugh Jackman was great though. (although I thought his role as the knight was only OK) Also the upside down shot that flipped over at the horse and car bothered me a lot. It felt like it was trying to see they were interconnected, but it only felt like "hey look at what i can do" since we the rest of the film was already saying that they were interconnected. How do you feel about my quibbles with the film?

        • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Jake17/ Jake17

          I think you're looking at the movie like it has a linear storyline, when it doesn't, and in fact uses the three characters to represent much more than individual people.


          IMO, the doctor, monk, and knight are the same person, and the movie shows the three different paths he could take. One where he eventually accepts death (the 'real' character), one where he continues to stubbornly deny it, and one where he goes as far as to fight death, which ironically leads to his own demise.

          I'd give it the same grade or a B, but I think it is a fascinating film, though it feels somewhat incomplete. Definitely one of those movies that I'd love to see get a director's cut.

          • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Hudsucker/ Hudsucker

            Hmmm.... I'll have to re watch it.

            • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/andyluvsfilms/ andyluvsfilms

              When it comes to The Fountain i am a religious zealot and it can do no wrong, i love the music, the imagery and the directors ambition but i do recognize your points and i accept them. What would have been interesting was the original, longer version that never got made because the studio shut Aronofsky down a few years earlier.

              As for the films storylines, i took this from wiki

              The director has said of The Fountain's intricacy and underlying message, "The film is very much like a Rubik's Cube, where you can solve it in several different ways, but ultimately there's only one solution at the end."

              In a 2012 interview, Aronofsky stated that "ultimately the film is about coming to terms with your own death".

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/seanfast/ Sean Fast

    Listener Question:

    With the proliferation of online pornography over the last decade, do you think America's puritanical (some would say prudish) views as seen best in its MPAA ratings, television, movies, etc will move towards something more relaxed, even European? If so, to what degree? (i.e. what kind of changes would you expect to see in the next decade?) [Sean Fast]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/RonOnealFresh/ Ron Oneal Fresh

    I think people are praising the technical prowess and overlooking the narrative short comings of Gravity because it's not aiming to be tightly weaved, bright narrative. If it was, it would have been a completely different movie. If you wanted it to be that's fine but how complicated of a story is a survival supposed to be? It's supposed to be minimalistic in that fashion and overpowering in the visuals.

    The dialogue could have been better absolutely or even cut down, It probably could have used 20 minutes or so for the dread of dying in space all alone to set in fully.

    weighing a visual spectacle, something that's never been seen on film vs typical movie problems. It just seems like small potatoes to drastically ding it for. Just my opinion.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/RonOnealFresh/ Ron Oneal Fresh

    Who the hell know If Gravity will be a masterpiece people claiming it to be down the road. It is too soon to say probably, but people have been calling art/entertainment they initially saw as 'classics', 'masterpieces' for time immemorial. People are extremely enthusiastic and felt they had an 'experience' in a movie theater for the first time in a long time. No need to poor cold water on that because you didn't.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      Not the point at all.

  • http://imqwerty.wordpress.com/ Jordan B.

    Movie 43 was recently added to Netflix; any chance of another review contest?

    • http://imqwerty.wordpress.com/ Jordan B.

      Also, strangely enough, Salinger is available on Netflix already. A random statement, but I just noticed it for anyone who wants to watch it.

    • http://letterboxd.com/gman/ G-Man

      Let's do it! Would be cool to have this been an ongoing thing every couple months.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Hudsucker/ Hudsucker

      I think it might actually kill off a large percentage of podcast listeners.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Adu/ Adu

    Wow Laremy...I knew I wasn't going to win, but good golly SMAUG! Coming in at 4 is bloody murder! You made your point loud & clear 'friend' ;)

    I hope Brad picks an awful avatar for you, that's the worse I can wish upon you :)


    Laremy watches Mud & Prisoners before 2013 is over to maintain his credibility as a movie critic*

    *I had Brad's permission to unleash my revenge!

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

      I laughed out loud at your comment Adu.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Jake17/ Jake17

      If Laremy doesn't watch those films, I'm gonna stop giving my money to this stupid podcast.... ;)

  • TheOneWhoKnocks

    Thanks for answering my questions, guys.

    The last time I went to the movies was July 9, so...

    • TheOneWhoKnocks

      Brad is watching BREAKING BAD? Cool.

      It gets even better towards the final seasons, so enjoy. And steer clear of the Internet. Littered with spoilers. (Duh.)

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

    Just out of curiousity, who else is planning on participating in the new review contest?

    Also, I've come up with an idea for the next review contest..After Earth.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

      I will if I can find a copy of the movie.

  • http://www.cinemaconfessions.com/ Gautam Anand


    Don't you think by claiming that Garvity can't be a masterpiece, you are as much wrong as those who are claiming it to be. Who knows, it might actually become a masterpiece with time. When 2001 came out, who knew it will become a masterpiece, it is now ?

    Also, the general perception of masterpiece is different from a personal perception of masterpiece. I might consider a film to be a masterpiece but if not many feel the same way it won't be generally perceived as masterpiece and vice-versa. Just because I didn't like 2001, I can't be ignorant about the fact that it is considered a masterpiece. What I am trying to say is, even if you feel that Gravity is not or can't be a masterpiece, it shouldn't concern you since it's the general perception which is going to decide what is a masterpiece and what is not. I am sure, there are many films labeled as masterpieces which you don't like.

    Coming back to Gravity, I agree that people are jumping their guns too soon, but having said that which was the last film where so many people were vociferous in their opinion of it being a masterpiece. And I am not talking about irrational super-fans who will call even Twilight films to be masterpieces. I am talking about people who matter - intelligent cinema going audiences including respected critics. As far as I remember people weren't so vociferous in calling Argo or Life of Pi a masterpiece. As much as you would like to believe that every other film is labeled as masterpiece as soon as they release, I am hard pressed in coming up with a single film in last 3-4 that has received the kind of reception that Gravity has. May be Inception. And wasn't that well-deserved when you look at it in hindsight.

    So, I think instead of vehemently denying that Gravity isn't masterpiece material, let's wait and watch. It might very well never be a masterpiece in your eyes, but it might become a generally perceived one.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      I'm not claiming it can't be a masterpiece, I'm saying declaring it one immediately after seeing it is jumping the gun. You say as much in your comment, "wait and watch". Exactly.

      We've discussed this many times on the podcast and in our writing and even admitted to making the error ourselves in the past. The last time I did it was with my review of The Curious Case of Benjamin Button and you will never see me do it again.

      • http://www.cinemaconfessions.com/ Gautam Anand

        Well, from what I heard in podcast, I felt both you and Laremy don't think Gravity can ever become a masterpiece. Laremy even says "People will forget it soon". Now that's where I think, Laremy is on the same platform as those who's are claiming it to be masterpiece because both are making judgments prematurely.
        I am just saying we should give it time, to judge it either ways.

        Also, the other point which I was trying to make is at the end of the day, what will decide whether a film is masterpiece or not is the majority opinion. And at this time majority is in favor of Gravity in spite of what you both feel about it. We only have to see, whether time tilts the balance in favor of you both or not.

        • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/TheLastEquivocationofBrist/ TheLastEquivocationofBrist

          But Brad and Laremy's point is worth making partially *because* they're not the majority. If everyone feels the same way about everything, where's the fun in that?

          • http://www.cinemaconfessions.com/ Gautam Anand

            I am not against Brad and Laremy or for that matter anyone for what they feel about Gravity. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion about a film.
            Here's the point of discussion is when can one call if a film is or isn't a masterpiece.

  • TheOneWhoKnocks

    Listener Questions:

    1. What do you think constitutes a good year for cinema? Many people said that 2012 was an excellent year for movies, and it was, but there were still plenty of awful movies released during that period. At the same time, there was a consistent quantity of good movies released each month. Should a good year for cinema have an even number of quality films released each month, or is it merely a good year for movies if the best films of the year truly stand out? [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    2. How important is a director's "personality" when reviewing a movie? Some directors have certain styles which stand out when they make their films (see Refn in DRIVE), and this only adds to my appreciation of their works. Others are directors for hire, who merely emulate other film-makers (as Abrams does with Spielberg). Does a director's voice play a major part in determining the grade you assign their films? [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    3. What are your thoughts on the practice of buying concessions when going to the movies? Sure, popcorn goes great with some action films, but is the selling of actual meals (such as pizzas, fried chicken, and french fries) in movie theaters really a good idea? Do you often buy snacks when going to the movies? And finally, do you agree that movie theaters would be much better places if they channeled some of the money they spent selling concessions on renovating their multiplexes? [TheOneWhoKnocks]


    1. 2.5 more STAR TREK movies set in the current universe. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    2. 4.5 more weeks until a major release scores a 90% or higher on RT [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    3. 1.5 Oscar nominations for OUT OF THE FURNACE. [TheOneWhoKnocks]

    Buy or Sell:

    1. STAR TREK and STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS have the two most inflated Tomatometer scores ever. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    2. MAN OF STEEL 2 will receive less favorable reviews than the first movie. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    3. This has been Naomi Watts' worst year as an actress. [TheOneWhoKnocks]

    Playing the Percentages:

    1. Percent chance the J.J. Abrams STAR TREK films are remembered in ten years. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    2. Percent chance Brad and Laremy both like the next STAR TREK movie. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    3. Percent chance the site gets a major face-lift sometime in the next year. [TheOneWhoKnocks]

    • TheOneWhoKnocks

      I have a few more.


      1. 2.5 similarities between Brad and Laremy's top-ten lists at the end of the year. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
      2. 5.5 years until the PARANORMAL ACTIVITY franchise ends. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
      3. 2.5 more major releases this year which score below a 10% on RT. [TheOneWhoKnocks]

      Buy or Sell:

      1. The next STAR TREK movie will be the last one set in the current universe. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
      2.THE MONUMENTS MEN will not win any Oscars. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
      3. 2013 has been the worst year for movies since 2010. [TheOneWhoKnocks]

      Playing the Percentages:

      1. Percent chance Joseph Gordon-Levitt scores a directing nomination within five years. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
      2. Percent chance FIFTY SHADES OF GREY gets an NC-17 rating. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
      3. Percent chance NEED FOR SPEED ends up being better than both of the most recent FAST & FURIOUS movies. [TheOneWhoKnocks]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Jennifer/ Jennifer

    If a really great movie that would be an awards favorite if released late in the year is released early in the year, how much of a disadvantage is it come awards season?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

    For the next review contest, I'll say The Host.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

      Oops, didn't know that The Host was the next one. I guess I should've listened to it completely!

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/rti03/ Tiago Rti

    0.5 more movies for Jack Nicholson..[Tiago Rti]
    5 years till Tom Cruise stars in a non-action/Summer movie( its been a while).[Tiago Rti]

    Playing the Percentages
    % anybody over 89 years old wins an Academy Award for Acting.[Tiago Rti]
    % chance for Saving Mr. Banks on Rotten Tomatoes.[Tiago Rti]

  • http://reelprojection.com/ GothamCity151

    Well, I've seen 'The Host' already, so I look forward to working on my one minute! Still the worst film I've seen this year, and I've seen 108 of them!

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/ashdurdin/ ashdurdin

    Just when I decide to stop watching bad films from this year you make me watch The Host. For the future I wouldn't mind Movie 43 being a later contest because I've already seen it.

    [Listener Question] What are your thoughts on Sam Raimi. I enjoy the Evil Dead films and some of his earlier work like The Quick and the Dead, but his recent blockbusters are average at best. [ashdurdin]
    Buy or Sell
    Blue Jasmine is nominated for Best Picture [ashdurdin]
    Lone Survivor is a good movie [ashdurdin]
    Brad finishes Breaking Bad before the end of October [ashdurdin]

    % chance The Lone Ranger is a future movie contest [ashdurdin]
    % Monsters U wins Best Animated Feature due to lack of competition [ashdurdin]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/JNFilms/ JN Films

    I'm back guys, just finished my latest short film this week. Great to see the podcast doing well.

    52.35% chance that next year will be a better year of animated movies then this year [JN Films]
    70% RT Score for Smauuuuuug [JN Films]
    75% Chance someone will write a Smauuuuuuug song for Laremy [JN Films]
    35% Chance that the next Avatar movies will decline like The Matrix Trilogy [JN Films]
    85% RT Score for 'The Fault in our Stars' [JN Films]

    Buy or Sell
    The consensus of critics will agree that The Hobbit Trilogy is one of the most disappointing trilogies ever made when it's all said and done. [JN Films]
    'The Fault in Our Stars' will be considered the best Young Adult adaption after it's release (Throwing 'Perks' into the YA category too) [JN Films]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/TheLastEquivocationofBrist/ TheLastEquivocationofBrist

    That was my email about the #goodcomment, nice! The comment reminded me of this time a friend of mine pretentiously tried to tell me fim noir is all about existentialism, cited his source...then admitted he had never seen a film noir. And all I'd been trying to do was tell him Out of the Past is an awesome movie, sheesh.

    [Buy or Sell] If Gravity does turn a profit, it will cause at least one movie exec to go "An effects-driven movie starring a woman can make money? WHAAAT?????" [TheLastEquivocationofBrist]

    Watch This, Watch That for Brad: Aftershock or The Host
    Watch This, Watch That for Laremy: Movie 43 or The Notebook

  • Aidan Khan

    Buy or Sell:
    Either Brad or Laremy see the new Romeo and Juliet movie [Aidan Khan]

  • GottaGetThemMittys

    I have to say, as an avid B'n'L & Filmdrunk listener, I'm hearing similar soundboard choices. (Inception 'Braaahhh' and golf clap)
    This makes me happy.

  • Chris Neilson

    Playing The Percentages:
    % chance Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter is ever remade [Chris]

    • Chris Neilson

      Playing The Percentages:
      % on Rotton Tomatoes for How To Train Your Dragon 2 [Chris]

  • Alex Sopher

    Buy or Sell:
    The Monuments Men is nominated for Best Picture [Alex]
    Playing The Percentages:
    % chance Brad or Laremy ever see Battlefield Earth [Alex]
    % chance Laremy sees Before Midnight by 2014 [Alex]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Jake17/ Jake17

    The Host came out this year? Dear God, I can't belive I saw that in theaters....

  • http://imqwerty.wordpress.com/ Jordan B.

    Just wanted to add a little insight to the brief conversation Brad and Laremy had on the Somali population in Minneapolis; I thought I could jump in since I spent the first 18 years of my life in the Great White North.

    Minnesota is very well known as one of the more generous "welfare states", with loads of government-funded programs (both at the state and local levels) that seek to provide money and other resources to refugees and immigrant populations; this includes not just things like food stamps and welfare checks but also education grants, housing subsidies, and more. The Minneapolis and southern Minnesota Somali population in particular has boomed in the last two decades as government funding for these programs has increased. A large population of students in my high school, in fact, were refugees from Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan, and territories in the Middle East (Iraq, Pakistan, etc.). It's a surprisingly diverse state, particularly in the Minneapolis/St. Paul, Rochester, and Mankato areas.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

    Playin dem percents:
    % chance Brad gives another A+ to a movie this year to show Laremy he isn't chicken. [Corbin]
    % chance Adu actually hates Laremy now. [Corbin]

    Buy or Sell:
    Smauuuug would co-host the podcast if he was real. [Corbin]
    Brad and Laremy have too high expectations for American Hustle. [Corbin]
    Brad gets an audio drop of him going "Ooooh!" [Corbin]

    1.5 years until Brad and Laremy are just doing the podcast for the fans. [Corbin]
    29.5 nominations for American Hustle, 12 Years a Slave, and Gravity combined. [Corbin]
    3.5 years until Brad's amazing coffee machine breaks. [Corbin]

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

      Oh yeah, either of you can say "Oh, real mature!" to me anytime you want.

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Hrtn4Sqrtn/ Hrtn4Sqrtn

        I'm looking forward to all of these questions getting answered.

    • http://imqwerty.wordpress.com/ Jordan B.

      I was curious, Corbin, about your second Over/Under; at first, 30 seemed like an outlandish number of nominations for 3 films to reap in any year, but especially in one as packed as this. To give it a little context, I decided to do a Good Research to figure out how many times it has happened in the past five years.

      2012: Lincoln (12), Life of Pi (11), Silver Linings Playbook/Les Mis (8) = 31
      2011: Hugo (11), The Artist (10), Moneyball/War Horse (6) = 27
      2010: King's Speech (12), True Grit (10), The Social Network/Inception (8) = 30
      2009: The Hurt Locker (9), Avatar (9), Inglourious Basterds (8) = 26
      2008: Benjamin Button (13), Slumdog Millionaire (10), The Dark Knight/Milk (8) = 31

      So, three out of the last five years, we've seen the three most-nominated films enjoy a combined total of more than 29.5 noms. Gravity will no doubt be this year's 11- or 12-time nominee (a la Hugo, Life of Pi), but I wonder whether American Hustle and 12 Years a Slave will be able to grab the other 18 necessary to hit 30. Looking forward to Brad and Laremy's thoughts, for sure.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Hudsucker/ Hudsucker

      "Brad and Laremy have too high expectations for American Hustle. [Corbin]"

      I'm kinda thinking the same. It seems like you guys might be setting yourselves up for a major let-down, especially when you said there was a 0% chance you wouldn't like it.

      • http://imqwerty.wordpress.com/ Jordan B.

        I don't know, I think I'm with Brad and Laremy on this one. David O. Russell is a great filmmaker, and his films just seem to be getting better as he goes. He is a true actor's filmmaker, bringing great performances out of his actors that create an assortment of interesting characters with roles both large and small. Russell has become very good at telling intriguing, often personal stories that appeal to large audiences.

        Perhaps there is some chance of a minor letdown of sorts, just because the stars seem to be aligning so well for it, but I don't see how the film could be bad or otherwise un-enjoyable given the talent surrounding it and the story it tells.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

      One more percent:

      % chance Brad knew before this that his Oldboy poster is being used on Letterboxd.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/RonOnealFresh/ Ron Oneal Fresh


    - 100 minutes being your ideal run time for a film [Ron Oneal Fresh]
    - 1.5 genres in film that benefit from a 3 hour run time [Ron Oneal Fresh]
    - 3.5 more audio drops from The Desolation of Smaug [Ron Oneal Fresh]
    - B grade for 'Miller's Crossing' [Ron Oneal Fresh]
    - B- cinemascore for 'Nebraska' [Ron Oneal Fresh]
    - 10 million opening week box office for 'Escape Plan' [Ron Oneal Fresh]

    Buy or Sell

    - Both Brad & Leremy have settled on what was the worst film of the year [Ron Oneal Fresh]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/andyluvsfilms/ andyluvsfilms

    Do you think there are any great directors that have died but whose work
    have yet to be discovered? [andyluvsfilms]

    ps In regards to this weeks voicemail, The Good Wife is also a fantastic show that has plenty of women(and men) over thirty, some non-whities and also a person with Parkinsons, Michael J Fox. If you havent watched it then please give it a go.

    pps Adu Vs Smaug, i'm with Adu, sorry bout dat.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/EPayneDDS/ EPayneDDS

    10 reviews next Fall that compare "Interstellar" to "Gravity".

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Cordia/ Cordia


    When you started the website, how did you do 'Marketing' for it? and what would your advise for a starting blogger be these days?

    B grade for the Counselor
    200 million worldwide for Wolf of Wall street
    2.5 movies placed in an other categorie than the one it 'belongs' at the golden globes
    50 million dollar budget for The Wolf of Wall Street

    Playin' them %
    %chance Laremy loses the box-office draft
    % increase of the importance of the golden globes when the oscars are so many weeks after the globes like this year

  • http://www.theoriolereport.com Bob Phelan

    I'm usually with you guys when it comes to internet hyperbole but dammit I'm in the bag for Gravity. It just worked for me completely as a theater experience. I've heard all the complaints about it and they either didn't bother me or I disagree. I have to see how it holds up at home before really settling on how I feel about it but as a first time theater watch it was superb.

    Laremy, you should definitely watch Mud. One of my favorite films of the year. Stories We Tell was more interesting than entertaining for me but worth a look. Oh and I agree The Great Gatsby is underrated. Really liked it.

    Buy or sell - Losing a podcast to technical difficulties feels like the biggest waste of time and energy. I mean wow. [Bob Phelan]

    • http://twitter.com/pmachados Pedro

      Agree with you on everything you just said except for The Great Gatsby that I haven't seen yet.
      I see where they are coming from with the criticism on Gravity but the movie just worked for me on every level. Though I agree with the point Brad and Laremy make on masterpiece comments. I don't see how declaring a movie a masterpiece makes it one.
      A masterpiece just becomes a masterpiece. With given time.
      And Mud is definitely one of the best movies of the year for me as well.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/PzyKo/ Max


    $500 million - Worldwide box office gross for Gravity [Max]
    1.5 - Acting categories American Hustle receives a nomination in [Max]
    10 - Years until a critically and commercially successful movie based on a successful video game series is made [Max]
    1.5 - A+ grades Brad still has up his sleeve this year [Max]
    45 - Average age for acting nominees at this year's Oscars

    Buy or Sell:

    One of Brads current Best Picture nominees gets shut out entirely at the Oscars [Max]
    An American distributor ever backs the production of a biopic about Hitler [Max]
    Christopher Nolan eventually quits making blockbusters and goes back to making films similar in size to Memento [Max]

    Playing the %:

    % Rotten Tomatoes for Anchorman 2
    % Chance Casey Affleck, Matt Damon, Jennifer Garner, and/or Kevin Smith makes a cameo appearance in one of Ben's Batman films
    % Chance James Sallis's novel Driven (the sequel to Drive) is ever adapted for the screen

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Mv11391/ Michael

    Brad, question about the studio definitely campaigning Amy Adams for Supporting in American Hustle. Don't you think Columbia Pictures should be wise to push Adams for Supporting Actress where let's face it, Oscars should just give Cate Blanchett the Oscar now (she's going to win) and where she'll have better odds at winning if she does deliver in the movie?

    Not saying she'll easily win (she'll have to go past through Lupita Nyong'o & Oprah) but she'll have a better chance at winning. Also, one more question: I have Jennifer Lawrence in the 5th slot of Supporting Actress at Gold Derby for right now, what do you think are the chances of her getting in if she delivers in American Hustle?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/StephanieB/ StephanieB

    So close with the Safe Haven contest! Thanks Brad and Laremy.

    Question: I believe you have said before on the podcast that studios should look to bad movies for remake material. Is there a movie from the past 10-15 years you would be willing to give another chance because you think the story has potential and a different filmmaker/writer/cast could improve the outcome?

    20+ years until the next Romeo & Juliet adaptation (Not counting Gnomeo & Juliet, there are 17 years between Luhrmann's and the latest).

    2.5 more films from Leonardo DiCaprio and Martin Scorsese.

    Buy or Sell:
    Disney shortens the title Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day to Alexander.

    Studios' interest in YA adaptations goes kaput if 2014's titles are unsuccessful (Vampire Academy, The Maze Runner, Divergent).

    Ursula is the next Disney villain to get her own film after Maleficent and the recently announced Cruella de Vil film.

    The Boxtrolls is Laika Entertainment's first Oscar win for Best Animated Feature

    Playing the %:
    % RT score for Disney's Frozen

    % of The Delivery Man audience that saw the original Starbuck

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/lapcat01/ lapcat01

    Will 7 of Oscar's 9 Best Picture Nominees Cross the $100M Mark Domestically?

  • Ctrice

    Shoutout to Laremy for properly pronouncing my username! Brad kinda butchered it. Can't wait to see what your new Avatar is gonna be.

    Listener Question #1
    Brad, can you please give us an update of all the films currently in the movie quote repertoire and play them all in one segment?

    Listener Question #2
    The narrative in Gravity isn't that strong, but visually and technically the movie is stunning and because of this everyone is calling the movie a masterpiece. Using this same argument, aren't all the Transformers movies masterpieces?

    • http://www.theoriolereport.com Bob Phelan

      #2 - No because the Transformers movies aren't visually or technically stunning. They're cluttered, weightless, and boring. In my opinion of course. To each their own.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/juanperezcarlos/ Carlos

    Buy or Sell:

    'Her' makes Laremy's Top 5 of the year.

    Over/ Under:

    5 movies from Brad's Top 10 that are nominated for Best Picture.

  • Rolling Stone

    Buy or Sell:

    During the next podcast, after the Brad says "Buy or Sell Laremy" Laremy says "Buy" before Brad asks the question.

  • Aidan Khan

    3.5 Oscar Wins for 12 Years a Slave [Aidan Khan]

  • http://www.seensome.com SeenSome

    It was me who made the comment about having seen 99 films at the theatres this year (now 101). I thought a large percentage of people who frequent the comments sections on sites such as this would be seeing roughly the same amount of new releases as I do but I guess I'm in the minority who sees that many.

    As I went into on the last podcast's comments section, the cinema experience in the UK doesn't seem to be as bad as you guys describe it in the US. As well as that, the biggest cinema chain in this country, Cineworld, has an 'Unlimited' card so I can see as many movies as I want for only £15 per month. When you consider a ticket is around £10, that's a great deal. Food is still crazily priced but I just don't buy it.

    Aside from that, I go to film festivals as press, advanced screenings, press screenings etc. when possible. I'm not sure how it's possible to stay in touch with the movie conversation without seeing the latest releases within a week of their release. I write for my own site and like to keep it as current as possible which is hard enough being in the UK where some films come out months after their US release and the hype has already died down.

    I guess I'm lucky that so many movies are available at a relatively low cost here and that I have a group of friends with a similar interest in film so I can go on such a regular basis.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/maja/ maja

      To be seeing over 100 films in the cinema at this stage of the year in the UK I assume that you must have gone to see some real duds like The Host, Grown Ups 2, Scary Movie 5 etc or at least some very poorly reviewed movies. I agree that Cineworld have a great deal but it's still sometimes not worth seeing a movie...even when it's free!

      I usually end up seeing between 100-110 movies a year (not all in theatres) but I'd say around a third of those come in November-December time when all the good movies finally get released over here.

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

        Ok..this is just a matter of a opinion, but I wouldn't exactly call Grown Ups 2 a dud.

      • http://www.seensome.com SeenSome

        I didn't see any of the the films you mentioned though I have seen some pretty bad films and some very average films, but that includes some films I was excited to see that didn't work out.

        Looking through my cinema entries on Letterboxd, the only ones I've rated at one-star are A Good Day to Die Hard and Not Another Happy Ending, then there are a few two-star entries including The Hangover Part III, Evil Dead, Beautiful Creatures, G.I. Joe, Cloud Atlas, Pain & Gain and Bullet to the Head.

        Thankfully I've avoided most of the outright duds like the ones you mentioned, Movie 43, The Mortal Instruments etc.

        Check out my Letterboxd for a full list, I've tagged all the films I saw in cinemas and my diary is up to date from the start of the year : http://letterboxd.com/seensome/tag/cinema/films/by/rating-lowest/

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/maja/ maja

    Over/under: 50% increase in the number of listeners who now listen to the end of the podcast (after the Moonrise quote) to see if Laremy will finally get his line in.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/DiscoPaco/ Disco Paco

    Over/Under 20% of this podcast's episode that Brad and Laremy spend complaining about film critics, people on the Internet, Hollywood studios and/or people in general. :)

  • http://twitter.com/tonypdl tonypdl

    Some Thoughts!

    A. My "The Host" suggestion was taken seriously! How cool. Will kind of sort of promise to participate now.

    B. I had a couple thoughts on the directors on TV and not getting the same attention as directors in movies. Some TV shows do keep the same director on for 99% of the episodes, and they have more influence on the show than normal TV shows (which more or less are revolving doors for directors). A show like How I Met Your Mother has a director who has directed close to every episode of the series and has become a major part of the story telling there. For the most part it just depends, and the writing staff is definitely constant on a TV show when compared to its directors. So I liked the points you guys made.


    1. The handheld/found footage genre seems to be dying out! After 2011 and 2012 had TWELVE released each year (per Wikipedia's article on the genre), 2013 only had four. And then there's only two that I know of scheduled for next year (the two Paranormal Activity ones). How do you guys feel about this? It was always going to be a passing fad, but it seems to have faded quickly. Could the genre have achieved anything more than popcorn entertainment, such as Oscar worthy installments?

    --Random Thought: I always thought a really simple rom-com, or even a straight romance could be told through found footage, but the genre was always consumed by horrors and parodies, which do seem to fit better there. Oh well, I'll keep that idea for a screenplay or something.

    Buy or Sells:
    - More reviews are submitted for the current "Voicemail Review Challenge" than the inaugural one.

    - 1.5 more weekends Gravity ends up at #1 for Domestic Box Office (Oct. 18 has Carrie, Escape Plan, and Fifth Estate; Oct. 25 has Bad Grandpa and The Counselor)

  • http://letterboxd.com/gman/ G-Man

    Every year around this time I'm reminded how much I love John Carpenter's "Halloween" theme and how much I think it adds to the movie. What are some of your favorite movie themes and how much impact do they have on your movie-watching experience? [G-Man]

    What are your guys' thoughts on YouTube jump cut movie critics (e.g. Jeremy Jahns, Schmoes Know)? Do you enjoy these types of reviews and/or follow any of these types of critics? [G-Man]

    Playing The Percentages:

    % chance "Bad Grandpa" is profitable [G-Man]

    % chance one of you likes Escape Plan more than The Counselor [G-Man]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Deliciousky/ David Delaney

    Hi lads, I saw Filth last week and didn't think it was all that good. However it's being reviews quiet favourably, especially in the UK, and a recurring theme of these reviews is that it's the best Irvine Welsh adaptation since Trainspotting. Previous adaptations of his work being The Acid House and Ectasy which were reviewed very badly. For me I feel this is an unfavourable way of reviewing a movie and that Filth should be reviewed as a stand alone piece. Can you say that you've noticed a similar trend in critical reaction to adaptations of other authors work ? For example, did the failure of Brett Easton Ellis's Less Than Zero improve reaction to American Psycho or did the success of the adaptation of Phalinuks Fight Club negatively affect the reaction to Choke ? Also, sorry for saying adaptation so much

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/DiscoPaco/ Disco Paco

    Could you guys perhaps discuss this Indiewire article on the lack of non-white people depicted in Spike Jonze's new film, Her, set in the near future? I doubt Jonze did it to be RACIST or anything. I suppose he either was making a deliberate point (which then Indiewire dude might not have gotten) or, as is with most straight white males, he didn't notice his privileged position and was completely oblivious to this omission. We might not ever know for sure but one thing we do know is that headlines like these are just "gotta get them clicks getters." The article does bring up a pretty interesting point towards the end when it asks are indie filmmakers producing films for a specific tech-savvy, hipster-leaning crowd and if so is this nice-ification of cinema a good thing? I would add, Has it been a good thing in news outlets? (i.e. MSNBC, Fox News, etc.) Will moderately-budgeted indie cinema turn into a gentrified liberal echo chamber? I live in San Francisco and you guys live in Seattle so I think you know what I'm talking about when it comes to trendy cities pushing out cultures through gentrification. Will out cinema/art reflect this by going along with it or will it push back?

    Thanks, guys.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/DiscoPaco/ Disco Paco

      *niche-ification... not nice-ification

  • http://twitter.com/pmachados Pedro

    I'm not even going to try to explain my Percent read on this podcast. It was a pretty unsuccesfull joke and I'm hoping it goes by unnoticed. So... sorry, thanks. Bye!

  • http://twitter.com/pmachados Pedro

    Thanks for answering my badly formulated question, by the way!

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/AlmostFilmCritic/ AlmostFilmCritic

    What are y'alls thoughts on "quote whores"? Further, what are your thoughts on the reporting by two of your fellow film critics, Mike (@aisleseat) McGranaghan & Erik (@erikthemovieman) Childress, of Shawn Edwards' lying to get his name on the ads for THE HANGOVER PART III? Edwards is quoted saying of PART III: "The funniest trilogy ever comes to a glorious end." Meanwhile, in his original video review, he gave it '2 Popcorn Bags', saying it's "not funny". Further, he tweeted last week to "Avoid it like the plague!" and gave it 'Zero Popcorn Bags'. Thoughts?

    15.5 years before a film wins the big five (Picture, Director, Actor, Actress, Screenplay) at the Oscars. Only occurred thrice: It Happened One Night in 1934, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in 1975, The Silence of the Lambs in 1991. [almostfilmcritic]

    A Best Picture controversy worse than Crash over Brokeback Mountain will occur in the next 10 years. [AlmostFilmCritic]

    A Gyllenhaal WILL NEVER win an Oscar. This includes father Stephen & mother Naomi Foner. [AlmostFilmCritic]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/the%20colleague/ the colleague

    According to Box Office Mojo, budget for Last Vegas is $28 million. If it holds up, Brad should be feeling pretty good. Laremy, with his 47 Ronin, not so much.

    Playing them %:
    - % of listeners who mispronounce Saoirse Ronan's name in their contest reviews [the colleague]
    - % of listeners that doze off while watching The Host (I did) [the colleague]

    I guess the second percent could also be a question. Have you ever dozed off while watching a particular movie or at least were close to it, not because you were tired, just because you found the movie to be boring and/or tedious? If you did, do you remember which movie it was? I remember it happening a few times in the last five years or so, once in cinema (Sherlock Holmes) and twice at home (A Nightmare on Elm Street remake (talk about irony!) and now with The Host). [the colleague]

  • robotsrule

    Buy/Sell: American Hustle surpasses Silver Linings Playbook RT score of 92% [robotsrule]

    Buy/Sell: American Hustle makes more money than Silver Linings Playbook (domestic 132k) [robotsrule]

    Buy/Sell: More Oscar noms for American Hustle than Silver Linings playbook (8 noms) and more wins (1) [robotsrule]

  • Mulderism

    Listener Question:

    Hi B&L,

    One of my pet peeves on movie reviews is when the reviewer says something to the effect of "so and so looked like he was enjoying himself". (Not sure if you guys do that in your reviews).

    First of all, why *wouldn't* an actor be enjoying him or her self? They're making a lot of money doing a job many would love to have.

    Second, the actor is acting a role. If the actor is doing a good job, you wouldn't see enjoyment unless the script called for it. So saying that the actor looks like they are enjoying themself seems like an insult to their work.