Podcast: Reviewing 'Best Man Holiday', Discussing the Shanty Town Hotel, Negative Energy at the Movies and More

We also get to a ton of listener questions and voice mails

Rope of Silicon PodcastToday's podcast ended up much longer than anticipated as it almost runs two hours as we review The Best Man Holiday and discuss it's online coverage (or lack thereof), we get to several voice mails and listener questions and topics, discuss Laremy's thoughts on this year's movies, Brad goes to the doctor and has a quick rant. Of course then there are games and overall silliness and, as always, we hope you enjoy.

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  • 00:00-00:25 - Introduction
  • 00:26-4:56 - A quick rant from Brad
  • 4:57-11:32 - Show notes
  • 11:33-15:20 - Box-Office Challenge Update (chart below)
  • 15:21-18:04 - [Listener Question] British film critic Mark Kermode has a famous list of movie theater rules known as the Wittertainment Code of Conduct for Moviegoers. What are your movie theater pet peeves, and if you had to develop your own code of conduct for theaters, what would it include? [TheOneWhoKnocks]
  • 18:05-21:39 - Brad is healthy
  • 21:40-26:50 - Laremy is down on this year's movies
  • 26:51-30:52 - South African Shanty Town hotel (more here)
  • 30:53-35:30 - [Listener Question] Why did films like Beautiful Creatures, The Host and The Mortal Instruments all bomb so hard? Are studios just trying to drop as many young adult adaptations hoping that one will catch on? Why do you think that these movies are not doing well? Also, what are your thoughts on Divergent? Do you think it has what it takes to be the next big franchise? [Ctrice]
  • 35:31-39:40 - [Listener Question] What do you think about the relatively recent trend of a growing number of actors trying their hands at directing? Is their a certain project you are intrigued to see how it turns out? Even though he's not an actor, I'm interested to see what Jon Stewart does in his directorial debut. [the colleague]
  • 39:41-45:20 - [Listener Question] What can be done to increase movie theater attendance? I think lower ticket and concession prices might help a little bit, but won't ultimately lead to a major bump in ticket sales. An idea I thought of would be making movies less or even not available at all on DVD/blu-ray, on cable, or by means of streaming, like it was back in the day. This way, going to the movies would become more of a limited time event that you couldn't miss if you wanted to see something. Obviously this won't happen since I'm sure studio heads have crunched the numbers and because times have changed, but do you think it would lead to a fairly dramatic increase in movie theater attendance? [G-Man]
  • 45:21-49:37 - [Listener Voicemail] Mason - Negative energy in a screening
  • 49:38-1:03:59 - [Listener Voicemail] Jamie - Personal questions
  • 1:04:00-1:11:27 - [Listener Voicemail] Tony L - Movie ratings, PG-13 vs. R
  • 1:11:28-1:17:03 - [Listener Voicemail] Mike - Movies we’ve already forgotten
  • 1:17:04-1:24:52 - The Best Man Holiday review (read Brad's review here)
  • 1:24:52-1:36:23 - Why do so few websites cover movies like The Best Man Holiday the same as other films?
  • 1:36:23-1:42:03 - Over / Under
    • 108 total news/articles Brad writes about Star Wars: Episode VII before the theatrical release [the colleague]
    • 5 more years until we get another traditional animated film from Disney [C-Trice]
    • 5 is the number of cookies that Laremy can eat in a row before feeling sick [Magille Foote]
    • 2 years before which Brad changes his Breathless DP. [Gautam]
    • 1.5 Oscar nominations for The Edge of Tomorrow [Hudsucker]
    • 88% on RT for The Hunger Games 2 [Alex]
    • 4% on RT for I, Frankenstein [TheLastEquivocationofBrist]
  • 1:42:04-1:46:20 - Buy or Sell
    • Brad gives an all out Oscar prediction update before Thanksgiving [Max]
    • Next Before film [if it gets made] is titled "Before Noon" or "Before Midday" [Gautam]
    • The new Transformers movie is the worst performing in the series at the box office.
    • Laremy didn't know he actually said "chance that The Academy would make a movie about unicorns..." in the percentages segment until reading/hearing this Buy/Sell. [tonypdl]
    • Until reading this buy/sell, Brad and Laremy totally forgot that Getaway came out THIS year. [John D.]
    • Laremy still has his old games intros written down somewhere [the colleague]
  • 1:46:21-1:51:30 - Playing the Percentages
    • % of people who see Blue is the Warmest Color that also know it's based on a graphic novel [the colleague]
    • % chance a Marvel movie is not the highest grossing movie of 2015 [John D.]
    • % chance that the review count stays at 198 because for a while because everyone wants to wait to be #200 [tonypdl]
    • % chance the Best Supporting Actor Oscar this year goes to someone other than Fassbender or Leto [TheAlmostFilmCritic]
    • % chance Gravity wins Best Picture [Chris]
    • % chance Laremy has even been to Fort Laramie [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    • % RT for Saving Mr. Banks on Rotten Tomatoes [Tiago Rti]
    • % RT for The Wolf of Wall Street [Max]
  • 1:51:31-1:53:24 - #GoodTweets
  • 1:53:25-1:56:24 - Closing

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Fall 2013 Box-Office Draft
Brad vs. Laremy

Laremy's Picks
MovieDateBudgetBox-OfficeCurrent Total
GravityOct 4$100m$477m$227m
Ender's GameNov 1$110m$56m-$218.9m
Inside Llewyn DavisDec 6   
The Hobbit: The Desolation of SmaugDec 13   
Tyler Perry's A Madea's ChristmasDec 13   
HerDec 18   
Anchorman: The Legend ContinuesDec 20   
Walking with DinosaursDec 20   
The Secret Life of Walter MittyDec 25   
August: Osage CountyDec 25   
47 RoninDec 25   
Brad's Picks
MovieDateBudgetBox-OfficeCurrent Total
Insidious: Chapter 2Sep 13$5m$148.7m$136.2m
Battle of the YearSep 20$20m$12m-$37.9m
Machete KillsOct 11$20m$7.9m-$42m
Jackass Presents: Bad GrandpaOct 25$15m$104m$66.5m
Last VegasNov 1$28m$37.1m-$32.8m
Thor: The Dark WorldNov 8$170m$345.8m-$79.1m
The Hunger Games: Catching FireNov 22   
FrozenNov 27   
Saving Mr. BanksDec 13   
American HustleDec 13   
The Wolf of Wall StreetDec 25   

The Fall 2013 Movie Box-Office Draft competition involved both Brad and Laremy "drafting" ten films each in hopes of scoring the largest net total by taking a film's worldwide gross subtracting two-and-a-half-times the reported budget. The film must be released in September through December 2013. The draft took place on August 20, 2013 during the RopeofSilicon Podcast which you can listen to right here.

Listed above is all the most recent data as of this post. Budgetary information is not necessarily accurate and will most likely not be accurate until closer to or after each film's release.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/TheLastEquivocationofBrist/ TheLastEquivocationofBrist

    Speaking of "do you really have to tell people not to do drugs in the movie theater?"...back in high school I once went to see a showing of the Hitler movie Downfall the same weekend that Sin City had started. At the start of the movie, there was only one other customer in the theater besides me. Several minutes into the movie, he left. Shortly thereafter, a couple walked in during the middle of the movie, headed for the back, and I soon began to hear...sounds. They left before long, and a different couple came in. So yeah, I think someone was running a prostitution ring in the smallest, out-of-the-way theater at our local megaplex.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/PzyKo/ Max


    2.5 - Times you will ever consider watching 12 Years a Slave a second time [Max]
    4.5 - Oscar nominations for Out of the Furnace [Max]
    .5 - Best Actor nominees that aren't portraying someone struggling to survive [Max]

    Buy or Sell:

    Both The Counselor and Only God Forgives make Brads Most Disappointing Films list [Max]
    Brad gives an all out Oscar prediction update before Thanksgiving [Max]
    Neither of the teams in the college football title game are from the SEC [Max]

    Playing the %:

    % of this year's acting nominees that are first time nominees [Max]
    % RT for American Hustle
    % Chance Gravity doesn't win Best Cinematography

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/andyluvsfilms/ andyluvsfilms

    What is a studios motivation to make quality films like Inside Llewyn Davis and
    August: Osage County when they are so risky at the box office? [andyluvsfilms]

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      Studios rarely make them. I know the Coens went and got financing for Llewyn Davis on their own and CBS merely picked it up. And, for the most part, the motivation is money, either in theaters or at home after awards season.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/rti03/ Tiago Rti

    -5 years till Tom Cruise stars in a non-action/Summer movie( its been a while).[Tiago Rti]
    -60% on Rotten Tomatoes for Lars von Trier´s Nymphomaniac[Tiago Rti]
    0.5 nominations for Her(maybe Original Screenplay)[Tiago Rti]
    0.5 more nominations for Nicolas Cage
    10% in RT for Tyler Perry's A Madea Christmas

    Buy or Sell
    -5 of your most anticipated movies for 2014 end up being moved to 2015[Tiago Rti]

    Playing the Percentages
    % chance i´m the only one who confuses Samantha Morton with Emily Watson[Tiago Rti]

  • dslacker

    4 1/2 minutes is a 'brief' rant ? When I do that, the men in the white jackets put me in the closet for an hour. I'm just sayin'.

  • Marc Rivers

    I think one film that really handled cultural diversity well in a candid sort of way was Rachel Getting Married.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      Very true. I wasn't a huge fan of the film, but I totally agree.

  • TheOneWhoKnocks

    The video that goes along with Kermode's Code of Conduct is hilarious. I highly recommend checking it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A-KV_xkrnc.

  • http://www.the-back-row.com Magill Foote

    - % Rotten Tomatoes score for Aronofsky's Noah
    - % chance of an Academy Award nomination for Hugh Jackman in Prisoners

    Buy or Sell:
    - Blue Is The Warmest Color is the best movie with the word "blue" in the title.
    - Thor 2's total box office gross is higher than Iron Man 3's.

    - $200 million dollar budget for Pixar's The Good Dinosaur (2015)
    - 3 minutes is the length of the "In Memoriam" segment at the next Oscars

  • TheOneWhoKnocks

    1. A "B" is the highest grade Brad assigns a major release in January. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    2. 7.5 days is the longest period of time either of you have gone without watching or writing about movies. [TheOneWhoKnocks]

    Buy or Sell:
    THE COUNSELOR is the most divisive movie of 2013. [TheOneWhoKnocks]

    Playing the Percentage:
    1. % on RT for NEED FOR SPEED. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    2. % chance either of you give 50 SHADES OF GREY a positive review. [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    3. % chance Laremy hates Zach Braff's new movie and ends up regretting donating to his Kickstarter. [TheOneWhoKnocks]

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/TheLastEquivocationofBrist/ TheLastEquivocationofBrist

      I hope Need for Speed is decent. Aaron Paul deserves to be in a good movie after playing such a gut-wrenching part on Breaking Bad for years.

      • TheOneWhoKnocks

        I'll see it just for Paul. In all honesty, the trailer wasn't half bad. If it weren't for that ridiculous monologue, which I didn't mind that much, it could have been the trailer for an arthouse heist movie.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Mason%20Williamson/ Mason Williamson

    Ugh. Your mention of people laughing during dramatic scenes reminds me: a couple days ago I went to see 'Blue is the Warmest Color', and nearly the whole audience laughed during the coffee shop scene where Adéle pulls Emma in towards her and my friend and I were completely baffled. Had a similar experience a couple years ago with '50/50' wherein the whole audience laughed when JGL broke down in his car. Seems people either don't know how to feel things anymore or they're so terrified of it that they have to turn it into a joke. Not sure if that says anything about audiences of today or what have you, but it infuriates me every time.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/TheLastEquivocationofBrist/ TheLastEquivocationofBrist

      Suddenly I'm thankful I saw Blue in our local art-house theater, despite the extremely uncomfortable seats there.

      • http://imqwerty.wordpress.com/ Jordan B.

        Unfortunately, I saw Blue at the art-house and had an experience quite similar to Mason's.

        • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Mason%20Williamson/ Mason Williamson

          Yeah, I saw it at an art-house theater as well - had to deal with the laughing and the uncomfortable seats.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/drew/ drew


    It doesn't really matter but Brad you were right, THINK LIKE A MAN does include another awkward white guy who hangs out with them at the bar and has to leave to see his family. His name was Bennett (Gary Owen). Anyway.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Nardog/ Nardog

    The moment when both went "Because!" was absolutely epic.

    3 months until Brad says goodbye to Mozilla Firefox [Nardog]

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Nardog/ Nardog

      BTW I'm not familiar with Firefox or Firebug so I don't exactly know what you were talking about, but doesn't Chrome Developer Tools meet your demand? If not, you may want to try Opera out. ;)

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

        Chrome doesn't have the ability to switch between tabs the way Firefox does either and I hate its aggressive caching.

  • Aidan Khan

    5 soccer players Laremy can name [Aidan Khan]

    • Aidan Khan

      Buy or Sell:
      The Hunger Games Catching Fire is the best blockbuster of 2013 [Aidan Khan]
      Playing The Percentages:
      % chance The Hunger Games: Catching Fire is worse than The Hunger Games [Aidan Khan]

  • Chris Neilson

    B+ for Her [Chris]
    Buy or Sell:
    Inside Llewyn Davis makes Laremy's Top Ten movies of 2013 [Chris]
    Playing The Percentages:
    % chance Inside Llewyn Davis is the Coen Brothers best film [Chris]

  • Alex Sopher

    B for Noah [Alex]

    C- for Non Stop [Alex]
    Buy or Sell:
    The New Pompeii movie is worse than The Three Musketeers [Alex]
    Playing The Percentages:
    % chance Noah is a commercial and critical success [Alex]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/DiscoPaco/ Disco Paco

    % chance one of you gives The Hobbit part 2 a B- or higher? [Disco Paco]

  • Bertram J. Krogh

    3.5 villains in The Amazing Spider-Man 2

    Buy or Sell:
    Gravity and 12 Years a Slave will continue to be the only “frontrunners” for this year’s Best Picture Oscar race [Bertram J. Krogh]

    Playing the Percentages:
    % of movie critics who read other people’s reviews before writing their own [Bertram J. Krogh]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Hudsucker/ Hudsucker

    10 years until we get another narrative Julian Assange film [Hudsucker]
    The show ever invites one or both of the Battleship Pretension guys as guests on the pod.
    Dem' Percentages
    % chance any of The Hunger Games films garner an Oscar nomination [Hudsucker]

  • Adam Crystal

    D+ for Hercules: The Legend Begins [Adam]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/andyluvsfilms/ andyluvsfilms

    After watching such generic garbage as The Wolverine and Thor 2 do you think the post credit scene is put in to stop you from walking out halfway through? [andyluvsfilms]

    ps Really enjoyed the segment on religion and happiness, more off topic stuff is welcoming as makes a nice change, i even enjoy the sports chat even though i haven't a clue what you're talking about.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/utahprime/ Mark Depew

    What was the Breathless DP reference - didn't catch it on the podcast????

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/austinjoel/ austinjoel

    You mentioned metaphors when talking about The Counselor a few episodes ago. Shortly after that I read a review that said they thought a movie was a metaphor for the economy. It was down then it went back up then back down blah blah blah. My thought was well maybe then it's a metaphor for the 1984 Cincinnati Bengals OR .... maybe it's just about a guy on a boat trying to survive. My question is are we giving to much credit to writers/directors and claiming they are using metaphors? I get really frustrated when I see people claiming that basically every movie ever is a commentary on the state of the world. [austinjoel]

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      That's just it, it's not a metaphor for the economy as much as it's a movie about greed, people are confusing metaphors for themes.

  • Red Baron

    Buy or sell: The Rock will win an Oscar before he dies.

  • http://www.seensome.com SeenSome

    Nice to hear you guys talking about the good Dr. Kermode and his code of conduct.

    Over / under :

    6 - Black actors nominated at this year's Oscars (in any of the four acting categories)

  • http://www.scifiblock.com John D.

    I could be wrong but I'm almost certain the deadline for The Host reviews is December 13. I remember thinking it was fitting because it's a Friday the 13th and The Host sounds horrifically bad. Also for what it's worth the movie is on Netflix streaming now.

    -A movie not currently in Brad's Oscar predictions at all becomes a serious contender in a major category (acting, screenplay, director, picture) by the end of 2013. [John D.]

    Also can we please get a drop of Laremy saying, "That's Capitalism bitches!"?

  • TheOneWhoKnocks

    Listener Questions:
    1. Do you guys often go to midnight screenings? Based on your experiences, do you consider them usually enjoyable times shared with fellow movie fans, or are they just a headache? [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    2. First World problem: I was thinking about seeing the new HUNGER GAMES movie at a midnight (technically 8PM) screening, but I'm not sure. I have fond memories of attending a midnight showing of the first film, but I'm not as enamored with the series as I was then. In fact, I've kind of grown tired of the series, and I've even ridiculed it on more than one occasion. Still, I enjoyed the first movie, and the new one looks even better, but I feel that I would be displaying cognitive dissonance by going opening night, especially if I'm taking away a seat from somebody who loves the series more than I do. What do you think? Is it worth going at midnight? [TheOneWhoKnocks]

  • ClassicWingers

    Buy or Sell.

    A sequel of M Knight Shyamalon's "Unbreakable" ever gets made, with or without him directing it. It *is* a potential untapped superhero franchise, and one of the director's more popular films before his current drought.

  • http://Trevorschoeller.com easybuttonfromb

    Regarding Maleficent, I was wondering if you guys had a favorite Disney Villain that you would like to see get their own (if any)? [easybuttonfromb]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/drew/ drew


    6 months until the podcast is renamed Mad Brad and Angry Laremy


    Luke and Bugsey have dog play dates

  • http://letterboxd.com/gman/ G-Man

    Over / Under:

    20 - Years before someone describes the visuals in Gravity as "good for its time" [G-Man]

    Playing the percents:

    % chance Tom Hanks wins an Academy Award this year [G-Man]
    % of listeners who think of Steve Wiebe from The King of Kong when the playing dem percents intro plays [G-Man]