Podcast: Oscar Race Talk, Super Bowl, Richard Sherman and Other Stuff

A little bit more of a gender and race-driven episode than we would have anticipated

Rope of Silicon PodcastToday's episode was a little surprising as we found ourselves going off and random tangents regarding gender and race in today's films and especially the upcoming 2014 slate while also talking about Richard Sherman's postgame comments this weekend. Then we finally get into more standard movie topics including new DVDs and Blu-rays, the Oscars following last week's award shows, your questions, some games and a little more.

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  • 00:00-3:14 - Introduction
  • 3:15-9:02 - Richard Sherman
  • 9:03-14:39 - Super Bowl story
  • 14:40-15:39 - [Listener Question] With the Super Bowl and the Oscars coming up, I was wondering what kind of food do you guys prepare for the different events? And if you could only watch one, which would it be and why? [Ryan M]
  • 15:40-21:36 - Box-Office Challenge Update (chart below)
  • 21:37-36:18 - [Listener Question] I got around to looking through Brad's Top 40 Most Anticipated Movies of 2014, given the year we just had, were there any films starring African-Americans or any minorities to anticipate? I didn't notice any unless I'm blind. [Marlon Wallace]
  • 36:19-40:58 - New DVDs and Blu-rays
  • 40:59-49:29 - Oscar talk
  • 49:30-51:33 - [Listener Question] If there were only 5 Best Picture nominees this year, they would have been 12 YEARS A SLAVE, AMERICAN HUSTLE, GRAVITY and what two others? [Almostfilmcritic]
  • 51:34-54:36 - [Listener Voicemail] Tony L - Her
  • 54:37-56:02 - [Listener Question] What is your opinion of story vs. character? Do you gravitate more towards a story driven film such as Inception or a character driven film such as Lost in Translation? [Mr Mercury]
  • 56:03-1:00:04 - [Listener Question] Are filmmakers who aren't just about cashing them checks but about the art obligated to step outside their comfort zone after a number of successful projects? Tarantino seems like a guy who loves cinema but my god I'm sick of all his love letters to old cinema and I'd wish he just step outside the usual of homaging. The thought of another period piece/western instantly makes me not want to see it, strange considering I was highly anticipating and was prepared for it before Django but now I'm loathing the future hysteria that follows his movies. How you found yourself turning on a filmmaker after one film? Especially when it wasn't a bad film. [Ron Oneal Fresh]
  • 1:00:05-1:02:46 - [Listener Question] I'm sure you've spoken about whether or not you watch and/or enjoy previews, but I'd love to know some specifics. Do you guys avoid previews so as not to spoil the movie? Or do you watch them whenever you come across a new one? What is the ideal number of previews before a movie in a theater? [Magill Foote]
  • 1:02:47-1:08:50 - [Listener Question] How soon after watching a film have you felt it has masterpiece potential? Something that is significant but also entertains, I say this after watching The Great Beauty, i am in love with this film and cant wait to see it again [andyluvsfilms]
  • 1:08:51-1:17:43 - Over / Under
    • $300 million worldwide for The Lego Movie [Chris]
    • $25 (plus cost of ticket)to get Brad & Laremy to see THE LEGEND OF HERCULES 3D in theaters [AlmostFilmCritic]
    • 1.5 Sundance films in your 2014 top tens [Bob Phelan]
    • B+ from Brad for "The Grand Budapest Hotel" [Ron Oneal Fresh]
    • B+ from either of you for Terrence Malick's next picture [the colleague]
    • C- for Vampire Academy [TheOneWhoKnocks]
    • C- for I, Frankenstein from Brad [Aidan Khan]
  • 1:17:44-1:21:13 - Buy or Sell
    • Kevin Costner gets one more Oscar nomination in his lifetime
    • A Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit sequel is made in the next 5 years [Aidan Khan]
    • Out of the three main contenders for Best Picture, Laremy is rooting for Gravity to win [Alex]
    • If American Hustle wins Best Picture at the Oscars, people will call Hollywood racist for not giving it to 12 Years A Slave [Ryan M]
    • One of the 2014 blockbusters will generate Pacific Rim-esque anger from Brad or Laremy [Ron Oneal Fresh]
  • 1:21:14-1:26:31 - Playing the Percentages
    • % chance a tie is repeated ever again at a major Industry awards [Mykael]
    • % chance neither American Hustle, Gravity, nor 12 Years A Slave wins Best Picture [Alex]
    • % chance Brad or Laremy reviews Mr. Peabody and Sherman [robotsrule]
    • % chance all Spike Jonze related projects of 2013 (Bad Grandpa, Wolf of Wall Street, and Her) all win an Oscar (all were nominated) [Hudsucker]
    • % chance Spike Jonze took his inspiration for Her from 1984's Electric Dreams [andyluvsfilms]
    • % chance that Benedict Cumberbatch will get a 2015 Oscar nomination for his performance as Alan Turing in 2014's The Imitation Game [Magille Foote]
    • % chance The Nut job makes it on Laremy's worst of 2014 [Mitch]
  • 1:26:32-1:29:35 - Would You Rather:
    • ...see a movie from a director whose work you're familiar with, or a movie from a first time director
    • ...see a biopic about someone you are very close with, or a biopic about yourselves
    • ...run a regular marathon or walk a double marathon
  • 1:29:36-1:32:23 - Randomness
  • 1:32:24-1:33:57 - #GoodTweets
  • 1:33:58-1:36:35 - Closing

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Winter 2014 Box-Office Draft
Brad vs. Laremy

Laremy's Picks
MovieDateBudgetBox-OfficeCurrent Total
Jack Ryan: Shadow RecruitJan 16$60m$40.2m-$109.8m
I, FrankensteinJan 23$68m  
RoboCopFeb 11   
3 Days to KillFeb 20   
300: Rise of an EmpireMar 6   
Mr. Peabody & ShermanMar 6   
Need for SpeedMar 13   
DivergentMar 20   
NoahMar 27   
A Haunted House 2Mar 27   
OculusApr 11   
Brad's Picks
MovieDateBudgetBox-OfficeCurrent Total
Paranormal Activity: The Marked OnesJan 2$5m$75.4m$62.9m
The Legend of HerculesJan 9$70m$16.5m-$158.4m
Devil's DueJan 16$7m$11.8m-$5.7m
That Awkward MomentJan 30   
The LEGO MovieFeb 6   
Non-StopFeb 27   
The Grand Budapest HotelMar 6   
Muppets Most WantedMar 20   
Captain America: The Winter SoldierApr 3   
Rio 2Apr 10   
TranscendenceApr 17   

The Winter 2014 Movie Box-Office Draft competition involved both Brad and Laremy "drafting" ten films each in hopes of scoring the largest net total by taking a film's worldwide gross subtracting two-and-a-half-times the reported budget. The film must be released in January through April 2014. The draft took place on December 13, 2013 during the RopeofSilicon Podcast which you can listen to right here.

Listed above is all the most recent data as of this post. Budgetary information is not necessarily accurate and will most likely not be accurate until closer to or after each film's release.

  • robotsrule

    New pod! Sawweeeeeeeet!

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/TheLastEquivocationofBrist/ TheLastEquivocationofBrist

    "Just be happy a movie you love won Best Picture" got me thinking...I'd have to go back to the 1970's to find a Best Picture winner I consider to be one of my absolute favorite movies.

  • TheOneWhoKnocks

    There should be more singing on the pod. Three minimum per episode!

    Oh, Laremy. You and your Political Correctness. Actress! Actress! Actress! :)

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Adu/ Adu

    I know not every listener here watches the NFL, but I like when you guys talk sports and politics occasionally...that Sherman discussion was needed.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/RonOnealFresh/ Ron Oneal Fresh

    I'm fine with the Tue and Friday pods. Four days a week, might get stale.

  • Bertram J. Krogh

    Smack that Smaug up!

    - 4.5 Oscar nominations for Bennett Miller’s ‘Foxcatcher'

    Buy or sell
    - Christoph Waltz will be in at least two more Tarantino movies, excluding his next [Bertram J. Krogh]
    - Many film lovers will consider PTA’s ‘Inherent Vice’ a disappointment [Bertram J. Krogh]

    Playing them percents
    - % of respected movie critics whose top ten list includes ‘Her’ [Bertram J. Krogh]

    - I am extremely tired of the whole awards shows extravaganza, everybody buzzing it up, and the whole season essentially being about trying to predict the winners first. So my question is this: to what extent do you believe the awards season really is a celebration of the year’s filmography? [Bertram J. Krogh]

  • http://letterboxd.com/austin/ Austin Gorski


    D for Robocop from Brad
    $250 million worldwide for The Monuments Men

    Buy or Sell:
    300: Rise of an Empire bombs at the box office.
    X-Men: Days of Future Past will be the best X-Men movie to date.

  • TheOneWhoKnocks

    I didn't understand a word of what you guys were saying during the first 15 minutes of the podcast. Something about sports?

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/TheLastEquivocationofBrist/ TheLastEquivocationofBrist

      If you don't live in NY, LA, or another hotbed like that, January is one of the best times to go to the movies. That's when most of the Oscar hopefuls that got extremely limited releases in December come out.

      • TheOneWhoKnocks

        True. I failed to take that into consideration.

      • robotsrule

        Sadly I saw just about everything in December and now I've got nothing to see. Except maybe Philomena. I just feel like it'll be boring.

        • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/TheLastEquivocationofBrist/ TheLastEquivocationofBrist

          I enjoyed Philomena, but I kinda feel the same way about Walter Mitty, Saving Mr. Banks, and Wowgost: Woesoj County. Haven't worked up the energy to see those yet.

        • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

          Philomena is definitely not boring.

          • robotsrule

            I couldn't tell because I haven't even seen a trailer for it. Just a poster of Judy Dench and a guy I don't know. So knowing nothing about it, it looked like something I wouldn't like. But I do like Frears so I'll probably see it. It's also not the type of movie I'd see in the theater since it's not an actioner, special effects movie, or cinematography heavy film so far as I can tell.

    • robotsrule

      I've been to a couple movies this January but the last two weeks are slim pickings. I'm not planning to go back until February. Fortunately I think there's at least one movie per week in February that I want to see.

  • http://www.the-back-row.com Magill Foote

    I love the longer form podcasts twice a week. Time enough for reviews, chit chat and games. Abridged podcasts just wouldn't be the same.

    Buy or Sell:
    - Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day fails to recoup its budget
    - Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day has the longest title of any movie in 2014
    - Benedict Cumberbatch will win every award that he is nominated for in 2014 (inspired by Brad saying Cumberbatch hasn't proven himself)

    - 3 is the number of prophetic visions that Noah experiences in Aronofsky's Noah
    - 2 more A Haunted House movies

    - % chance another beloved but cancelled TV show is resurrected via Kickstarter in 2014, a la Veronica Mars
    - % chance a crappy computer animated Calvin and Hobbes movie is made after Bill Watterson's death

  • TheOneWhoKnocks

    Brad, I think that your release dates for the draft are all off by one day.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Travis/ Travis

    Buy or Sell:

    There is a first ever tie for Best Picture this year

    Assuming there is a tie, Angry Brad fully consumes Brad and becomes his own entity

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Fox/ Fox

    I'm happy that you guys talked about the Sherman interview. I thought it was hilarious. These guys are getting paid millions and millions of dollars and all the public wants them to do is play football and act boring? Really? I'll take the entertainment, thanks.

    In regards to Brad asking if the reaction would be the same for a white player? It definitely would. Look at Marshall Henderson at Ole Miss for an example.

    Speaking of the interview:
    Whoever wins Best Director at the Oscar's gives a Richard Sherman-like acceptance speech. Assuming Cuaron: "You gonna try me with a sorryass director like McQueen?!? That's the result you gon get!" [Fox]

  • Aidan Khan

    Buy or Sell:
    The Grand Budapest Hotel is the best movie of the first quarter of 2014 [Aidan Khan]

    • robotsrule

      on RT or just in Brad and Laremy's opinion? I think it will be for me but I'm a Wes Anderson fanatic. The field looks pretty sparse right now in terms of competition. Monuments Men, Nymphomaniac, Transcendence, Noah ,and maybe a couple of other indie things look to be about it. I think with Anderson you know what you're going to get. There's no way he's going to make anything shockingly bad but some of these other ones are much more uncertain. They could be terrible or they could be really good. I'm intrigued by the trailer for Transcendence but that doesn't mean it will be any good. And Noah could also go either way.

  • Chris Neilson

    390$ Million worldwide for Rio 2 [Chris]
    Playing The Percentages:
    % chance Gravity wins Best Picture [Chris]

  • Alex Sopher

    Buy or Sell:
    The Seahawks win the Superbowl this year [Alex]
    Both Brad and Laremy watch the whole Grammy awards [Alex]
    Playing The Percentages:
    % on Rotten Tomatoes for Godzilla [Alex]

  • Mitch

    Thank god for the sports talk, I didn't have a clue who Richard Sherman was and now I can join discussions at work.
    Also, I know you guys didn't want another Tarantino western but you didn't have to steal and leak the script :p

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Nardog/ Nardog

    Buy or Sell:
    Laremy starts to find words like 'female' and 'woman' offensive because they are just 'male' and 'man' with prefixes [Nardog]

    Listener question:
    In the '70s the New Wave rose, in the '80s everything was commercialized and over the top, and in the '90s Tarantino, Fincher, PTA, etc. debuted and Cameron became king of the world. So, what are the characteristics of the 2000s in film? What movies do you think represent the decade best? [Nardog]

  • Anthony_K_In_LA

    Listener Question: I have not seen 12 Years a Slave, but I am guessing there are more than a few beatings in the film, so my question is if this was just a story about someone held captive and beaten, like a standard horror film perhaps, would it get Oscar buzz? I think I know the answer. So topic is everything?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/the%20colleague/ the colleague

    - after reading this, Brad informs his mom that NBC has decided not to go with the Murder, She Wrote reboot after all

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Adu/ Adu

    That was a great and profound piece you wrote about Her on Laremy.com
    Check it out people!

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Adu/ Adu

    I prefer the 2 lengthy podcast a week just fine.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/wuggles/ B. Smith

    % chance that Tyler Perry ever wins an Oscar. [B. Smith]

    Listener Question:
    What are your favorite movies with a majority minority cast? [B. Smith]
    What are your thoughts on a limit for people winning Oscars? This is all hypothetical of course, but it's kind of like how Oprah took herself out of the Daytime Emmys because she knew she would keep winning. Do you think prolific actors should do so with the Oscars? [B. Smith]

  • http://www.theredboxreport.com Bob Phelan

    I had seen all kinds of ridiculous Facebook and Twitter reactions to Sherman's interview and just concluded that they were severe overreactions. This podcast was the first time I heard the actual interview and now I want to join Mars One... I loved it, makes me want to root for the Seahawks more next Sunday.

    For the record I like the current format but then again I always fear change... I'm sure it would be fine either way.

    Buy or Sell - Laremy will have a Take Shelter/Lincoln/Pacific Rim esque battle on the /filmcast in 2014. Bonus question if yes, what will it be? My guess would be Captain America: The Winter Soldier [Bob Phelan]

  • robotsrule

    I like the two pods because the longer running time is good for the gym or other longer errands. That being said the wait is also not so fun. So I think I'm happy either way.

    Seahawks and their fans are unaccustomed to playoff success and understandably unclear on how to behave. They're just very excited to not be terrible after all these years.

    Over/Under: 5. The average number of times per podcast Brad says "It's just...." when he's thinking of what to say next. [robotsrule]

    Buy or Sell: Brad and Laremy write and produce a biopic about the folk singers Chad and Jeremy [robotsrule]

    Percents: % chance Steve Carell is nominated for an Oscar for Foxcatcher [robotsrule]

    % chance Brad ends up taking the Smurfs 3 for the Summer '15 draft [robotsrule]

  • Steve Crobie

    Listener Question:

    Hi Brad n Laremy, I just finished watching 'Blue Caprice' , The Film about the DC Snipers. It was pretty good but of course I went back and fact-checked to see how accurate the film was. Of course it wasn't as accurate as I expected or wanted it to be. Now between this and 'The Slate' article that brakes down all the inaccuracies of Lone Survivor and all other movies based on true stories, I ask you. How much should these inaccuracies even matter? Part of me feels that they owe it to certain types of subject matter to be as truthful as possible. What do you think?
    Thanks again and sorry I messed up my voicemail.

  • fanny pack

    Can I just voice the opinion that I like the way it is now. I don't think 4 smaller podcasts would be *that* much less work. Also the way it is now you have the opportunity to go off on interesting tangents and discussions (my favorite part of the pod), that would have to be cut down significantly in the shorter ep format. Anywho, thanks for all the hard work. Can you do a monthly subscription ala Slashfilmcast?

  • The AlmostFilmCritic

    Someone will complete the EGOT within the next 5 years. [AlmostFilmCritic]

    Playin' Dem %
    % change the Best Picture wins neither Best Director nor its respective Best Screenplay category. [AlmostFilmCritic]

  • Mykael

    Upstream Color had its premiere at Sundance last year. And it made Laremy's top ten.

  • Ryan M

    3.5 years till Spike Jonze's next film [Ryan M]
    2.5 plates of food that both Brad and Laremy eat during the Super Bowl [Ryan M]
    B- for The Muppets Most Wanted [Ryan M]
    C+ for That Awkward Moment [Ryan M]
    B- for Transcendence [Ryan M]

    Buy or Sell:
    Batman vs. Superman will be a better film because they pushed the release day back from 2015 to 2016 [Ryan M]
    Ben Affleck will win an acting Oscar before Matt Damon [Ryan M]

    Playing the Percentages:
    % chance Brad ever sees at least one episode of Sherlock [Ryan M]
    RT score for Need for Speed [Ryan M]
    % chance Brad and Laremy enjoy the final Hobbit movie [Ryan M]
    RT score Monuments Men [Ryan M]

    Listener Question:

    Instead of asking what is the worst film you have ever seen, my question is what is the most disappointing film you have ever seen and why? [Ryan M]
    If both of you were starting a film company, and you had to pick one male actor, one female actor, and one director to make all of your movies, who would you pick and why? [Ryan M]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/RonOnealFresh/ Ron Oneal Fresh

    Question: "Directors cuts" seem to be getting rarer and rarer as the years go by, with the exception of Ridley Scott... it's practically an extinct practice with studio directors, I'm not counting the "4 minute EXTENDED EDITION!" junk we get from time to time. But a real director cut, before watching a "Touch of Evil" a disclaimer stating this version was re-editted to fit Orson Wells wishes — I was wondering why don't studios re-edit films anymore. I don't need to see Warner Bros re-edit Inception or any of the films from the major directors like Nolan, Fincher, Scorcese, Spielberg etc but what about the mid level films that had something interesting but never gain momentum or a decent film that severely falters in the third act because of plot twist, abandon plot thread, unpleasant tone shift etc — You from time to time read about how much run time a studio orders a director to cut from a film. What do they do with that footage, how many fixes for a problematic film is there on the cutting room floor?

    Sorry for the long question.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/andyluvsfilms/ andyluvsfilms

    % chance either one of you get called a tosser this year [andyluvsfilms]
    % chance that the dinosaurs were made extinct by an asteriod [andyluvsfilms]

  • Aidan Khan

    B for Draft Day [Aidan Khan]

  • Mykael

    Playing 'em Percents -
    The Wolf of Wall Street and Nebraska go empty handed at the Oscars. [Mykael]
    Best Editing winner isn't the Best Picture winner.[Mykael]

  • http://letterboxd.com/gman/ G-Man


    One thing I've been thinking about with the Academy Award nominations coming out - how much of the good cinematography, editing, etc. in a movie is a credit to the DP, editor, etc. as compared to the director? I mean ultimately doesn't the director make the major decisions regarding this stuff anyways? I guess I just don't totally understand how much influence a director has over which shots are selected, scenes get ultimately cut, etc., and who actually deserves the credit for things such as cinematography and editing. [G-Man]

    Buy / sell:

    Wolf of Wall Street and Jack Ryan would have both made more money if they kept their original release dates [G-Man]