Podcast

Podcast: Early 'Prometheus' Thoughts, 'Snow White and the Huntsman' In-Depth and Fainting Stories

This one is truly epic... mind-blowing even!

Rope of Silicon PodcastYou ready for this? Oh man, we are about to blow your mind with 106-minutes of non-stop movie chatter. We have people fainting during our screening of Prometheus. We have a few early comments on Prometheus. We talk Zhang Ziyi being charged with alleged prostitution. A guy paints himself green and can't get it off. Your questions. Over/Unders. Good Tweets! And, of course, nearly 23 minutes of talk regarding Snow White and the Huntsman! Yes, it's epic!

As always, I have broken down this episode on a minute-by-minute basis if you would like to skip ahead and below I have featured the information on how to download the podcast, find us on iTunes or merely just listen in your browser.

  • 00:00-2:45 - Introduction
  • 2:46-3:55 - Brad feels he needs to see Battleship
  • 3:56-12:00 - Prometheus screening talk, faintings and quick thoughts (but not full review)
  • 12:01-14:36 - Zhang Ziyi investigated for Prostitution (source)
  • 14:37-16:15 - Dude Paints Himself to be Green, doesn't wash off for 24 hours (source)
  • 16:16-17:33 - Lionsgate Considers Turning The Expendables, Red and Step Up into TV Series (source)
  • 17:34-19:55 - More G.I. Joe: Retaliation talk as we need more C-Tates
  • 19:56-22:28 - [Listener Question] With the recent movement of G.I. Joe: Retaliation to March, does this show that, even though things like G.I. Joe are popular, that studios solely believe their summer action films need to contain 3D? [Grissom]
  • 22:29-25:00 - [Listener Question] Given the poor box office and critical performance of "Battleship", do you think that studios will now be hesitant to adapt other board games into movies such as "Monopoly", "Candy Land", and "Ouija"? [Kai Sacco]
  • 25:01-26:19 - [Listener Question] With the box-office success of Men in Black III, what is the next film to receive another sequel that's been dead/had no buzz for years? [Sean MF]
  • 26:20-27:56 - [Listener Question] Are rom-coms basically dead as nothing new can be said about them in the plots are extremely limited? [darnoc]
  • 27:57-31:39 - [Listener Question] When it comes to sitcoms, do you guys prefer the big, expensive cable comedies (i.e. Weeds, The Big C, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Veep), or do you prefer smaller scale network comedies (i.e. 30 Rock, Community, Big Bang Theory, Modern Family)? [Mikey Sylwer]
  • 31:40-33:57 - [Listener Question] Anybody you'd like to see direct or star in Aaron Sorkin's Steve Jobs pic? [Drew]
  • 33:58-38:58 - [Listener Question] There's a fire in your apartment and you have time to save only one of Kubrick's movies. Which one do you choose? [the colleague]
  • 38:59-41:42 - [Listener Question] Which director would you most like to see direct an action movie for the very first time? [darnoc]
  • 41:43-43:30 - Laremy has trouble reading emails
  • 43:31-44:50 - Some "Buy or Sells" from Ben
  • 44:51-48:20 - [Listener Question] Do you think a film's release date can make or break it at the box office -- in other words, to what extent do you think it ultimately affects how much a movie makes at the box office? [Bustray]
  • 48:21-55:35 - [Listener Question] If you guys had to pay to see movies, would you pay a dollar more per ticket to be able to reserve a seat of your choosing? How about five dollars more for midnight showings of major releases? [G-Man]
  • 55:36-57:13 - [Listener Question] In light of Piranha 3DD having a very limited opening (approx 75 screens domestic I've heard) and simultaneously being released in VOD, do you think the limited release and VOD combo will become more common with smaller name titles? [G-Man]
  • 57:14-57:56 - [Listener Question] Would you rather see a long super boring but excellent film or a very short awful one? [Harry Fuertes]
  • 57:57-59:38 - [Listener Question] Was just thinking about retrospective Best Picture wins and which movies were remembered more. What recent Best Picture wins do you guys think still hold up, and which do you think years later were undeserving? [Alex Thomas]
  • 59:39-1:00:40 - [Listener Question] When you are hyping a film and you hear bad things about it like people talking crap, do you find yourself less excited for it or are you like "you're an idiot"? [Harry Fuertes]
  • 1:00:41-1:13:07 - Over / Under
    • 2.5 years until we see a Rise of the Planet of the Apes sequel [Bustray]
    • 8 oscar nominations for Django Unchained (2 being acting) [Harry Fuertes]
    • 2 years before immersive headphones can be hired at cinemas to keep out the noise of popcorn eaters/phone users/ chattering masses so only the film is heard [Darnoc]
    • .5 chances that Prometheus will be a disappointment [Harry Fuertes]
    • .5 chance Moonrise Kingdom breaks into the top 5 when it gets a wide release [Snicket]
    • .5 chances that After Earth will be M. Night Shyamalan's return to 'filmmaking' [Kai Sacco]
    • .5 more Pauly Shore movies discussed on the podcast after Bio-Dome [Timmy]
    • .5 this years original screenplay winner last name is Anderson [Another Ben, formerly known as Bmac]
    • .5 Best Picture winner this year is "Dark" in tone [Another Ben, formerly known as Bmac]
    • .5 chances Brad and Laremy do a end of the world podcast on Dec 21 this year [Another Ben, formerly known as Bmac]
    • .5 chances the end of the world actually happens [Harry Fuertes]
    • $200 million domestic box office gross for Prometheus [Jordan B]
    • $500 million difference at the end of the Box office draft [Elijah]
    • $750 million worldwide for Brave [Bustray]
  • 1:13:08-1:16:07 - #Good Tweets - Laremy's egotistical Twitter thing
  • 1:16:08-1:18:08 - [Listener Question] What is the appeal of films by Wes Anderson? They might be kind of quirky but he does not do a decent job at telling a story and he bores people to death. So please enlighten me... [Quickslay]
  • 1:18:09-1:19:55 - [Listener Question] I've recently read Laremy's review of Green Lantern, in which he classifies the six-months-later-time-jump as a "defeated scriptwriter technique number two". Would, then, "in medias res" be number one? Which movie techniques, be it concerning the script, editing, cinematography, etc. do you find overused and/or tidious at this point? Mine would probably be whenever a character goes "So, let me get this straight", and proceeds to summarize the plot for the audience. [the colleague]
  • 1:19:56-1:32:12 - [Non-Spoiler] Snow White and the Huntsman Review (read mine here)
  • 1:32:13-1:42:58 - [With Spoilers] Snow White and the Huntsman Review
  • 1:42:59-1:46:00 - Closing

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Summer Movie Box-Office Draft
Brad vs. Laremy

Laremy's Picks
Movie Date Budget Box-Office Current Total
The Avengers May 4 $220m [*] $1.31 billion $761.5m
Battleship May 18 $209m [*] $282m -$240.4m
Men in Black III May 25 $215m [*] $212m -$325.4m
Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted Jun 8 $145m [*]  
Rock of Ages Jun 15 $80m [*]  
Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter Jun 22 $69m [*]  
The Amazing Spider-Man Jul 3    
The Bourne Legacy Aug 3 $90m [*]  
Total Recall Aug 3 $200m [*]  
The Campaign Aug 10    
    $195.7 million
         
Brad's Picks
Movie Date Budget Box-Office Current Total
The Dictator May 16 $65m [*] $95.5m -$66.9m
What to Expect When You're Expecting May 18 $40m [*] $26.8m -$73.1m
Snow White and the Huntsman Jun 1 $170m [*] $1.383m -$423.6m
Prometheus Jun 8 $100m [*]  
That's My Boy Jun 15  
Brave Jun 22    
Ice Age: Continental Drift Jul 13  
The Dark Knight Rises Jul 20 $250m [*]  
Step Up Revolution Jun 27    
The Expendables 2 Aug 17 $100m [*]  
    -$563.6 million
         

The Summer Movie Box-Office Draft competition involved both Brad and Laremy "drafting" ten films each in hopes of scoring the largest net total by taking a film's worldwide gross subtracting two-and-a-half-times the reported budget. The film must be released between the months of May-August 2012. The draft took place on May 4 during the RopeofSilicon Podcast which you can listen to right here.

Listed above is all the most recent data as of this post. Budgetary information is not necessarily accurate and will most likely not be accurate until closer to each film's release. I have include links to the source for eachbudget report and all box-office numbers come courtesy of Box-Office Mojo.

 

Who do you think will win the 2012 Summer Movie Box-Office Draft?

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  • Jordan B.

    "Prometheus causes seizures." - Laremy

    Quick OVER/UNDER:
    4 - films this year that cause seizures

  • Winchester

    I'm seeing Prometheus on Sunday so I'm very very much looking forward to seeing it. Without asking you to say too much, can I ask if you feel it was worth the placing on your most anticipated list? Do you feel you made a good call placing it where you did?

    I'm really interested in the Blade Runner comparison as well.

  • Philippe

    I've just seen Prometheus in France where the movie is still out. It's a real good surprise because with the teasers and trailers ai thought it could be a new action space movie, but it's absolutely not the case. Prepare to make a journey with great actors on a strange planet and a great and labyrinthic spaceship. Prepare to get some moments stuck in your head for a long time after seeing the movie. I wish you love it as i did. Thanx Ridley and Damon Lindelof for this experience.

  • http://timeforafilm.com Alex Thomas

    This podcast would have taken ages to edit/write up Brad. Was just thinking Laremy's looking the goods now in the Box Office draft - I thought Brad had it wrapped up but not liking most except for The Dark Knight Rises.

    I feel I've read more negative thoughts on Prometheus so far, which I'm personally happy with as it has lowered my expectations. Someone mentioned "What if Dark Knight Rises isn't Amazing!?" and I am very scared at that thought.

    What genre of movies do you guys get most excited for? Or is there no particular genre and just movies with a great cast, director or great hype (from festivals etc). For me it seems to be blockbuster action movies, I feel I can't get excited for a Comedy movie (TED isn't doing it for me quite yet) and films like Moonrise Kingdom I'd like to see but not dieing to see.

    Over/Unders:
    0.5 chances you like Rock of Ages
    4 years Adam Sandler is still making movies

  • Khaira

    I like wat i'm hearing about Prometheus...complaints aside, the consensus seems to be that its cerebral, visually exciting and goes into a different territory than the Alien movies...the fact that the setting is different from that in Alien is also a big plus for me....

    Most of the disappointment for ppl would arise if they expect an Alien 2.0 which , from wat i hear , it obviously is not...and thats fine by me....hope it banks enough to warrant a sequel...a big budget , summer sci-fi thriller exploring new ideas ?...when was the last time that happened ?....

  • D’Artagnan

    Listener Questions:
    - You mentioned that Wes Anderson films are not for everyone. About which other directors would you say the same?

    - If you meet a filmmaker you you really admire and get to ask him ONE question (ever), would you prefer him to give an honest answer, or a hillarious and memorable one.

    Brad, do watch Battleship. It would be great to hear you hit/sink/ it on the podcast. :)

    And I am quite sure you guys would love Community...

  • the colleague

    Brad, less than a month ago you thought 91 minutes was too long. Looks like that 2-hour podcast is getting closer with each passing week. :-)

    Questions:
    - How faithful should a movie adaptation be to its literary source? For example, The Shining mini-series, though much more in line with the book, doesn't pack nearly as big of a punch as Kubrick's movie. Or is that an isolated case of an excellent director improving upon the existing work?

    - There have been a few movies that were shot-for-shot remakes, for example Van Sant's Psycho or Haneke's Funny Games. Is there something substantive to been gained from this practice and can such a remake actually improve upon the original?

    - Given how majority of the movies are made in 21:9 (2.35:1) apect ratio, why do you think the format hasn't received stronger support from the TV manufacturers?

    - If you could throw out one of your summer picks and replace it with a movie that is yet to open, which one would it be and what would you replace it with?

    Over/Unders:
    - 7.5 years before we get another R rated sci-fi movie if Prometheus severly underperforms
    - .5 chances Brad ends up liking Madagascar 3
    - .5 chances Brad sings a song to Laremy at the end of a podcast

  • Timmy

    Phew. A long one, but a good one. Had to consume this podcast in 2 sittings. Thanks for the horse pun love at the top of the show!

    Over/unders:
    10 years before Wes Anderson directs a movie he did not also write
    30% of rabble-rousing review comments that are actually left by podcast fans seeking entertainment from Brad's angry ranting
    4.5 more comment flame wars before Brad removes the phrase "one of the best commenter communities on the web" from RoS's Facebook page
    2.5 years until C-Tates appears in all the movies

    Random:
    In the not too distant future, movie studios develop the technology to retroactively add C-Tates to classic movies. What movie do you add him to? My answer: At the end of Citizan Kane, it is revealed that Rosebud is not a sled, but the name of Charles' favorite male stripper played by one Channing Tatum.

    • http://hypethemovies.wordpress.com Jordan B.

      Your random = sheer genius.

      #goodcomments

  • adu

    I was wondering what the process was for you guys getting an interview; in terms of contact, content, location etc.

  • jesse2312

    Coming from someone who is interested in seeing Prometheus but hasn't seen ANY of the previous Alien films, would it be a good fit for me to watch Prometheus first or watch the other ones before? Will I not understand certain parts?

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      You do not need to see any of the Alien films to understand Prometheus.

  • Will

    I am the person who loves Jurassic Park and Tree of Life! I will be counted, sirs!

  • http://kaisaccofilm.tumblr.com/ Kai Sacco

    Over / Under

    • .5 "Jurassic Park IV" will hit theaters summer of 2015.

    • .5 chances "The Avengers 2" will be the closing chapter in the Avengers saga

  • http://hypethemovies.wordpress.com Jordan B.

    QUESTION:

    You've said that it's best to go into Prometheus "without expectations" and that those who go in with expectations may be disappointed. What other films do you think receive undue criticism or are viewed as disappointing largely due to moviegoers' expectations (Cars 2 comes to mind, for me)?

  • Grissom

    In recent years making sequels to films two years after (such as Iron Man, Spiderman, etc.) have become the norm and they have proven popular. But in terms of sequels to films like Indiana Jones and Tron, they prove disappointing. So with sequels to Beetlejuice, Mad Max and Con Air (what the hell?) in production, the question stands: What is te best way to introduce a sequel to a film released 10-20-30 years ago to an audience of a new generation who probably aren't familiar with the original? The same goes for sequels for films with that proved moderately successful (Attack the Block, Death Race, Step Brothers, Taken).

    • Grissom

      Over/Under
      .5 James Cameron actually goes through with his "Avatar" based career plans

  • Snicket

    So while I have been doing my best to avoid all Promethus related media, I have been listening to a few tracks from the score. Do you find that listening to a film score before you see the film takes away from the experience?

    Over/Unders

    3- Number of K-Stew fans who will now constantly troll the site.
    .5- Number of board games that will get green lit after Battleship.

    Can't wait for the Biodome chat!

  • maja

    Guys, I have to tell you I tried watching Biodome last night. It was up/down there with Freddy Got Fingered as the worst movie I have ever seen. I'm not quite sure how i managed to endure the whole 90minutes.

  • Cece

    Brad, Im a huge Kristen fan and I'm fan of this site but you were going a little hard. The tea party?!Lol

    In regards to SWATH, Do you think the hype and your anticipation affected your dislike of the movie?

  • darnoc

    ok randoms over unders n qs

    should whoever loses the box office draft be made to run up n kiss THAT security guard?

    .5 that robert downey jr plays long john silver in guy ritchies treasure island

    .5 that ant man is the next marvel character to be launched but this time in the avengers and not his own film

    if you lived in the uk which of these would piss you off the most
    20-25 minutes of adverts before the movie starts
    films being held back months just to coincide with kids holidays compared to US release - we didnt get the muppets till feb 2012
    lack of independent small cinemas outside of the major cities to show the smaller films?

    if laremy is at a karaoke party what movie song would he choose to sing?

    and finally as brad is the height of a giraffe did he ever consider a career in basketball or as lurch?

  • Thomas

    Brad and Laramy, I find it kind of sad that Ridley Scott's whole career has been reduced to ALIEN and BLADE RUNNER and, seemingly, now PROMETHEUS.

    Why have his other good movies (Black Rain, Thelma and Louise, Black Hawk Down, Matchstick Men) gone by the wayside?

  • http://hypethemovies.wordpress.com Jordan B.

    QUESTIONS:

    1) Most movies seem to have a general consensus about them: they either strike the right chord or they don't. But this doesn't always seem the case with comedies. Everyone has a different sense of humor and different scale of what's offensive or overly crude. Are there certain types of comedy that you think appeal to most everyone? What do you think makes a great comedy and what are some of your favorites?

    2) Many directors do similar movies (either in genre, story, or style) over and over again. Which directors, past or present, do you think do the best at switching things up from film to film and not bringing too much of their other films into their new ones?

  • Mikey Sylwer

    So Ryan Gosling got nominated for a Best Actor for "Drive" at the MTV movie awards.

    MTV:1 Academy:0

  • http://hypethemovies.wordpress.com Jordan B.

    Given your views on Prometheus and its box-office potential:

    OVER/UNDER

    .5 - chances that we see a Prometheus sequel
    .5 - chances that the possible sequel is titled 'Prometheuses', 'Promethei', or 'Prom'

  • Ben, formerly known as Bmac

    I feel Chris Nolan is considered one of the greatest directors of this generation, however do you guys feel that his Batman trilogy will be something that hurts or helps his status as one of the great filmmakers?

    Referring to a question from last week...

    Would you rather see an action film by Michael Bay or Paul Thomas Anderson?

    I feel like there are very few young quality filmmakers right now. Am I wrong?

    Buy or Sell

    TDKR is a Best Picture Nominee but never is a true contender
    Total Recall is this years Rise of the Planet of the Apes
    Within next 5 years, a Rope of Silicon Award winner gives some sort of an acceptance speech.

  • adu

    ******spoiler alerts for Snow White and the Huntsman*******

    Teleport: Ravenna said her powers don't work in the Dark Forest.

    The arrow aimed at the stag and not Miss White: No excuses!

    I agree with all the plot holes you mentioned, but yet found it pretty entertaining...a guilty pleasure I admit :)

  • Thomas

    Why are people in the film blogger community such fair-weather fans? If a director does not do exactly what we want him to do, we throw them under the bus. If Christopher Nolan decided to direct a rom-com with Kristin Stewart next, all his "fans" would throw fits far and wide, never mind that he might make a good movie out of it.

    Long story short, why is the film blogger community so similar to the Borg in Star Trek? Why can't we dissent? Why do we all have to think the same way? Who should care if someone likes BATMAN BEGINS better than THE DARK KNIGHT (as I do)?

  • kyle coley

    Questions: Will we ever see a game of thrones movie?

    When was the last great movie ending you guys have seen?

    Do indie movies make the best kind of movies?

    if the good the bad and the ugly was made today would it get the same reaction as it did 40+ years ago

    over/unders: .5 oscar wins for emma watson
    .5 chances you guys will walk out of a screenings.

    Randoms. what was the last great NBA you saw?
    have you guys ever troll before?

  • G-Man

    Questions:

    Regarding voice over work, even though you guys consider it a cop out most of the time, do you think it adds to a movie when applied correctly, or is still a cop out of bad writing in a sense? Personally, for movies like The Shawshank Redemption and Fight Club, the voice over work adds nicely to the story.

    Why don't all movie theaters sell popcorn/candy before collecting tickets? Seems to make too much sense to me considering that's how theaters make most of their money.

    Over/under:

    1.5 - Number of Fast and the Furious movies in a row Brad would watch instead of watching Piranha 3DD again once

  • http://cineenuruguay.blogspot.com Driver

    Over/Unders:
    .1 Chances Brad wins the box office draft (love for Brad is over)
    8 B+ and up films this summer
    6 the movies you see twice at the cinema this year

    Question:
    If you could have a sequel for any movie, what would that be?

  • darnoc

    2 final thoughts before you make the tuesday podcast

    over/under 5 years before de niro or pacino announce their retirement to spare us from the dreadful movies they currently making

    which do you think ridley scott will actually get to make first blade runner 2 prometheus 2 or his moses film that hes spoken of in esquire magazine?

  • the colleague

    Watched Bio-Dome last night, guys. The movie is unabashedly dumb, which I think is the reason Laremy chose it. Two idiots saving the world, or inner-world in this case. It very much reminded me of "Dude, Where's My Car," which I found about as equally "good" as this. I'm really interested in your analysis, because to me the whole thing comes down to little skits pieced together, some more memorable than others. I did laugh a few times, although not at the things the two idiots were doing, but just at the sheer notion of "someone read this script and gave it a green light" or "wow, these actors are really doing this." Plus, Faulkner's hair before his grizzly period was really giggle-inducing. Some of the other "highlights" include: deus ex key, computer actually saying "All hell is breaking loose," cabbage planted on the hatch lid...

    Overall verdict: dumb, mostly boring, but harmless

  • Quickslay

    As I recall, a German movie magazine hooked people to a EKG machine while they screened Alien for them to show how people reacted to the intensity of the film...especially the chestburster-scene. Maybe they should do the same thing while screening Prometheus to see how it compares...
    And don't forget a big seizure warning....

    (unfornately the start date for Prometheus in Germany is the 9th of August...bummer!)

    What are your favorite Sci-Fi Movies?

  • El Frostilico

    Just an FYI regarding the screeching sonar-esque sound effect thing in the Prometheus trailer: it originally appeared in the teaser trailer for Alien and so it would seem to just be a callback of sorts. To the best of my knowledge, it has never actually been heard in any of the Alien movies themselves (though it's been a while since I've watched any of them, so I could be wrong there).