Podast: Kicking Off 2013 Talking about the Oscar Race, 'Django Unchained', Writers Guild Noms and More

The first podcast of 2013 is here

Rope of Silicon PodcastIt's 2013 and we're back on schedule with our first podcast of the new year. No new reviews today, but we do manage to dig into several listener questions talking about the Oscar race, Writers Guild nominations, Django Unchained, The Perks of Being a Wallflower and our Box-Office Challenge. We also have a lengthy session of Over/Under and Buy or Sell, capped off with a new edition of Guess the Film Based on Its Foreign Title courtesy of Quickslay.

Today's episode runs just over 100 minutes and by this time next week we will have our first review of the new year with Gangster Squad. We hope you enjoy.

As always, I have broken down this episode on a minute-by-minute basis if you would like to skip ahead and below I have featured the information on how to download the podcast, find us on iTunes or merely just listen in your browser.

  • 00:00-2:07 - Introduction and Happy Holidays!
  • 2:08-4:41 - Show notes
  • 4:42-7:42 - [Listener Question] How do you guys plan for drafting in your box-office challenges when foreign release dates are so different? For example, Wreck-it-Ralph has done good business everywhere, but still has yet to hit several major markets (UK, Japan, Australia). As such, picking it seems wise, but in the end is questionable. [Susan]
  • 7:43-18:40 - [Listener Question] I'm involved in an Awards contest and i really need to know if you guys think Quvenzhan√© Wallis will still be nominated next week. who/what has the better overall chance of being nominated? [andrew]
  • 18:41-21:52 - [Listener Question] Dana Stevens over at Slate posed an interesting question that I will re-pose. People can celebrate the killing of Nazis in 'Inglorious Basterds' but is it okay for people to celebrate the killing of white people in 'Django Unchained' - meaning can that be like a selling point to potential black movie-goers? Should I, as a black man, for example applaud Django shooting and killing that white woman at the end especially in light of the fact that she did try to spare Broomhilde some embarrassment during the dinner scene? [marlonwallace]
  • 21:53-27:06 - [Listener Question] Is 'Django Unchained' a comedy? I, at times, didn't know how to feel. All the violence inflicted on black people in the movie is given heavy dramatic weight and seriousness, whereas all the violence inflicted on white people, particularly at the end, is given such crazy comedic weight to it that I couldn't take it seriously but the violence against blacks is undeniable in its brutality that I'm not sure how to feel. What do you two think about it? [marlonwallace]
  • 27:07-36:42 - [Listener Question] A big reason I have a lot of respect for film critics, and I'm wondering if you ever felt this way, is that while I would consider myself a reasonably intelligent, well spoken person I have a hard time explaining why I do or do not like a movie. It more just a gut feeling for me and I just know. Either a movie draws me in completely or not. I find this very frustrating because I love movies so much I wish I was better versed in them. [Bob Phelan]
  • 36:43-39:17 - [Listener Question] Your favorite Kevin J. recently posted an article with David Cronenberg, in which the filmmaker states "Comic books were -- especially those comic books which I was raised on (I loved Captain Marvel) -- created for adolescents and they have a core that is adolescent. To me, that limits the discourse of your movie if you're basing it accurately on that, and you cannot rise to the highest level of cinematic art." Kevin finished the article asking "Can comic book movies also double as cinematic art?" [the colleague]
  • 39:18-41:35 - [Listener Question] To expand on that, a question for the two of you: can any movie with an adolescent core rise to the highest level of cinematic art? Are there movies existing today that fit the bill? And how would the two of you define/quantify/qualify "the highest level of cinematic art"? [the colleague]
  • 41:36-46:38 - #GoodComments (find the source here)
  • 46:39-51:44 - Laremy got a new phone
  • 51:45-1:05:22 - Over / Under
    • 10 years until Brad or Laremy have a quote used in the trailer of a major motion picture. [Chris]
    • B+ for Francis Ford Coppola's career [Disco Paco]
    • $18 million opening weekend for Texas Chainsaw 3D [John D.]
    • 10 films that make a profit in the January/February draft [John D.]
    • 7 more directed film by Spielberg [JN Films]
    • 3 more Tom Hanks films that receive a B+ or higher rating by you guys [JN Films]
    • 1.5 Seahawks playoff wins [Will-E]
    • 100 podcasts in 2013 [Alex Thomas]
    • 4 number of times Brad was called an idiot by good commenters in 2012 [Gautam]
    • 3 number of Oscar Nominations that Django Unchained will receive [Gautam]
    • 250 number of iTunes reviews for BnL podcast till end of 2013 [Gautam]
    • 15 percent chance Perks of Being a Wallflower gets an adapted screenplay nomination
    • [JeremyBaril]
    • 50 lens flairs in Star Trek Into Darkness [JeremyBaril]
    • 57 percent of AMPAS members voting at this year's Oscars [the colleague]
  • 1:05:23-1:17:35 - Buy or Sell
    • Judd Apatow's next movie is a solid straightforward comedy on par with 40 Year Old Virgin or Knocked Up.
    • 2013 will be a better year in film then 2012
    • This year's Oscars will be one of the highest rated in 5 years.
    • Brad and Laremy aren't the most perceptive critics out there.
    • The Master will surprise and be nominated 6+ Oscars including Best Picture.
    • Man of Steel will kick ass [JN Films]
    • Gangster Squad breaks The Hobbit's box office winning streak [John D.]
    • Laremy has to think of six #GoodTweets for the first show in 2013 to make up for the lack of tweets in the last episode [John D.]
    • Zero Dark Thirty is #1 in the box office the weekend of its wide release on January 11.
  • 1:17:36-1:21:20 - Guess the Film Based on Its Foreign Title (courtesy of Quickslay)
    • Ghettobusters
    • The Fighting Sausage
    • In the Land of the Rocket-Worms
  • 1:21:21-1:24:56 - #GoodTweets
  • 1:24:57-1:28:00 - Randomness and a brief story
  • 1:28:01-1:33:09 - Christmas presents
  • 1:33:10-1:37:25 - Writers Guild nominations
  • 1:37:26-1:41:00 - Closing

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Fall 2012 Movie Box-Office Draft
Brad vs. Laremy

Laremy's Picks
MovieDateBudgetBox-OfficeCurrent Total
The MasterSep 14$35m$18.9m-$68.5m
LooperSep 28$30m$166.5m$91.5m
Taken 2Oct 5$45m$365.6m$253.1m
Cloud AtlasOct 26$100m$65.7m-$184.2m
Wreck-It RalphNov 2$165m$277.1m-$135.3m
Twilight: Breaking Dawn - Part 2Nov 16$120m$812.1m$512.1m
Red DawnNov 21$65m$43.6m-$118.8m
Life of PiNov 21$120m$306.7m$6.7m
Django UnchainedDec 25$100m$82.3m-$167.1m
Les MiserablesDec 25$61m$132.8m-$19.6m
Brad's Picks
MovieDateBudgetBox-OfficeCurrent Total
Resident Evil: RetributionSep 14$65m$221.8m$59.3m
ArgoOct 12$44.5m$165.1m$53.9m
Paranormal Activity 4Oct 19$5m$140.7m$128.2m
Alex CrossOct 19$23m$32.8m-$24.6m
FlightNov 2$31m$96.6m$19.1m
SkyfallNov 9$200m$1.003b$503.6m
LincolnNov 9$65m$137.6m-$24.8m
Anna KareninaNov 16$50m$32.2m-$92.7m
The Hobbit: An Unexpected JourneyDec 14$150m$706.4m$331.4m
The ImpossibleDec 21$45m$60.8m-$51.6m

The Fall 2012 Movie Box-Office Draft competition involved both Brad and Laremy "drafting" ten films each in hopes of scoring the largest net total by taking a film's worldwide gross subtracting two-and-a-half-times the reported budget. The film must be released between the months of September-December 2012. The draft took place on August 28 during the RopeofSilicon Podcast which you can listen to right here.

Listed above is all the most recent data as of this post. Budgetary information is not necessarily accurate and will most likely not be accurate until closer to or after each film's release.

  • The Dude

    Here is a video where Tarantino discusses morality, if you are interested:


  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/kevinblumeyer/ Kevin Blumeyer

    Buy or sell:

    Drake sues Laremy for using "YOLO" as part of his sign-off.

    • adu

      I am buying that, because that would make Laremy famous...he will then buy Brad's website and finally achieve his goal of becoming the anchor of the B&L podcast.

      I'm on to you Leremy! :)

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/maja/ maja

        Not sure having a host with such little passion for films is the way forward for the B&L podcast :p

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/kevinblumeyer/ Kevin Blumeyer


    $50,000 the couple from "This is 40" would save if they traded in their Lexus SUV and BMW for a couple of Kias.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Xarnis/ Xarnis

    I think I'd say that 'The Master' has a better chance than 'Beasts of the Southern Wild'
    Master got a nod from the SAG and the WGA. Even though 'Beasts' got nominated for a PGA, i just feel like it's not in the conversation.

    1. Lincoln
    2. Zero Dark Thirty
    3. Argo
    4. Les Miserables
    5. Django Unchained
    6. Silver Linings Playbook
    7. Life of Pi
    8. Moonrise Kingdom
    9. The Master
    10. Beasts of the Southern Wild
    Plus, i don't feel like SLP is getting enough talk, so i moved it from my top 5. I'm sure it will get nominated, but i have a few doubts. Personally, i think there will be 7 nominees (possibly 8, but 7 feels safer)

    Listener Question
    In my top 7 Best Picture nominees above (Lincoln, Argo, ZD30, SLP, Le Mis, Life of Pi, and Django) Only one film is not adapted, Which is Django (ZD30, is an original screenplay, but it is based on real events). DO you think that people will eventually stop making original films? Only a handful of original films end up being good (i.e Django, Looper) and with the rise of the remake and prequel, will Hollywood not want to make original films, because they won't profitable, or well recieved?

    another Listener question
    I talked to a friend who also listens to The Podcast and she said that Films that are nominated fro Best Picture should be the basis for what is Cinematic Art. Do you agree or disagree?

    Also, I saw most anticipated article that had Die Hard 5 and G.I. Joe: Retaliation both on it. How anyone puts that there is beyond me.

    4 nominations for 'Django Unchained' [Xarnis]
    2.5 Oscar nominations for 'The Avengers' [Xarnis]
    'Killing Them Softly' gets an Oscar nom [Xarnis]
    45% on RT for 'A Good Day to Die Hard' [Xarnis]
    A Cinemascore for 'Zero Dark Thirty' [Xarnis]
    4 films that Brad gives an A+ to in 2013 [Xarnis]

    Buy or Sell
    'The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn part 2' wins the people's choice award
    With the poularity of 'Django Unchained,' Tarantino makes another Western film
    'Lincoln' sweeps The Golden Globes
    'Perks of Being a Wallflower' gets and Adapted Screenplay nod
    The OC gets rebooted
    Brad reads a comic book in 2013
    Francis Ford Coppolla makes another film that is nominated for Best Picture
    'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' is remade

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      Beasts was ineligible for both SAG and WGA so obviously it wouldn't have been nominated. That could work against it or not, I'm not sure.

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Xarnis/ Xarnis

        Well, it being ineligible takes it out of the conversation to a point

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/AS/ AS

      There always seems to be that one movie which scores big with the critics but less so with the Academy.

      In 2011, it seemed like The Descendents was the critical favorite while The Artist took the big prize.

      In 2010, the critical favorite was The Social Network while King Speech took the prize.

      Sometimes the critics and the Academy go in the same direction. This happened in 2009 with Hurt Locker, 2008 with Slumdog and 2007 with No Country.

      So, the only question is will the critics & the Academy go the same way this year?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/seanfast/ Sean Fast

    Probably posted too late to get this included so I'll put it here for next Tuesday:

    Given how high Django appeared in most of you and your guests' top ten lists, how much (percentage-wise) would you attribute to it's quality as a film, and how much would you attribute to it being released so close to the time everyone is making top ten lists?

    I guess I'm asking if it would have ranked so high if it came out in say, March of 2012.

  • JN Films

    Viewer Question:
    People have a lot of issues with the writing in Prometheus but couldn't you argue the writing in Prometheus is better then Alien and Aliens? [JN Films]
    75% of the Oscar members are also AARP members [JN Films]
    2 Oscar noms within the next 5 years for Michael Fassbender [JN Films]
    10 years till you guys become academy members [JN Films]
    50% chance that a undeserving movie gets nominated for best picture (i.e. Skyfall, The Hobbit, Etc.) [JN Films]

    Buy or Sell
    You guys will post a picture of yourselves on the site this year [JN Films]

  • Justin

    "I have no interest in being a pretentious douche."

    "I would fill her mom's bear shoes"


    And yes I agree 100% about the score for Zero Dark kicking some serious ass. He is long overdue for an Oscar. Is this his year?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/AS/ AS


    "The Meryl Streep invitational" - Laremy


    Moonrise Kingdom causes an upset when it scores a Best Director nomination [AS]

    Tom Hooper does NOT get a Best Director nomination [AS]

    Each new Tarantino film makes more money than the previous one [AS]

    Brad & Laremy both decide to buy GTA V [AS]


    Brad gives Pain & Gain a B+ [AS]

  • http://www.theoriolereport.com Bob Phelan

    When I say I respect film critics I'm mainly talking about the people I follow such as you guys, Jay Cheel, Matt Singer, etc. in most cases I try to avoid the overly pretentious sort.

    I also completely don't understand all the love for The Grey and Hannah.

    Over/under - 90 times Laremy says the word 'penultimate' on the podcast. For the record I'm also a fan of the word.

    Btw I already rated and reviewed the podcast way back but I'm gonna try to jack my wife's phone and do it from hers.

  • DavidG

    I love the West Wing shoutout.
    So Brad, off topic a bit, what are your favorite West Wing episodes/moments?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks

    Now that awards season is upon us, I was just thinking hypothetically what if Best foreign language category never existed and those movies were included in the Best Picture category, who would win it? Here are some to think about....

    2011: The Artist vs. A Separation
    2010: The King's Speech vs. In A Better World
    2009: The Hurt Locker vs. The Secret in their eyes

    And finally 2012 favorites: Lincoln or Argo or Zero Dark Thirty vs. Amour

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks

      .... [Nav]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/AndrewJ.S./ Andrew J.S.

    Over/Under: 2.5 Oscar wins for Jennifer Lawrence in her career

  • Trishana

    Question: More Django Talk

    I was listening to NPR and the hosts were talking about Django Unchained. They said that a black filmmaker/writer would not have been able to make this film. So I decided to delve more into that issue. If you look at a lot of the popular/critically successful movies about black people during slavery (Glory, The Color Purple, Amistad and now Django etc.), the directors have been white. I also read an article on salon.com and I will post the question the author of the article wrote: Could a black director have made "Django"? "Django" in this case represents a general slave revenge or black empowerment movie. What if a black director/writer had made "Django"? Do you think the film would've have been perceived differently by the masses and critics? The author of the article related this issue back to white privilege and I thought it was very thought provoking. I just wanted to hear your thoughts on this.

    Buy or Sell:
    The Evil Dead remake becomes the most disturbing film of the 21st century.
    Spike Lee's Old Boy remake becomes his new masterpiece.

  • Stephen

    Over/Under: $20 million opening weekend for The Last Stand.

    Buy or Sell: Brad will pluck down his own hard-earned money to see Top Gun 3D in it's six day run in Imax Theaters on February 8th.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks


    50 years before IMAX becomes the default/normal way of viewing movies in theaters. [Nav]

  • Jesse3232

    Listener Question
    What would you rank as Tarantino's best movie? [Jesse3232]
    Given that superhero movies are a huge part of Hollywood these days, would you classify Christopher Nolan's Batman movies as the best this genre has to offer? [Jesse3232]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/the%20colleague/ the colleague

    - B-, Brad's grade for 'Gangster Squad' [the colleague]
    - 16 minutes, length of your conversation about Academy nominations on Friday's podcast [the colleague]

    - 'Gangster Squad' theater shooting scene will be included on a home video release, or even reinstated in a movie, and promoted as an "alternative cut" or something along those lines [the colleague]
    - 'The Dark Knight Rises' will be nominated for Best Cinematography at the Oscars; 'Batman Begins' and 'The Dark Knight' were both nominated [the colleague]
    - 'Gravity' will be among Brad's Top 10 Most Anticipated Movies of 2013; it was #2 for 2012 [the colleague]

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/maja/ maja

    hey guys, just to let you know the budget for Les Miserables is actually around $80m.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/G-Man/ G-Man

    Over / Under:

    5.5 - Number of categories where Brad predicts all the Oscar nominations correctly

    10 - Years until a legit techno dance or workout song wins an Oscar (last snub I can recall was the Mortal Kombat theme in 95)

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/jjensen9971/ jjensen9971

    2 questions:
    1. I would like to listen to a older podcast with your review of a movie. How do I seach your previous podcasts to know which one you reviewed a specific movie? The genral search tool opn your home screen give me ALL kinds of good info about a film, but not which podcast you reviewed it.

    2. Where do I comment or ask a question or give you a buy or sell or over / under so that you will possibility reply to it on your next podcast?

    Thank you.

    J. Jensen (Mr. Jensen if you're nasty)

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/ Brad Brevet

      You asked in the right place. Your first question will be answered on the next podcast.