'Pirates 5' Delayed, 'Jurassic Park 4' Titled and Dated and 'Ant-Man' Moved Up

Pirates of the Caribbean 5 director shortlistThere's been a lot of interesting release date movement over the past 24 hours. To begin, Disney has delayed the release of Pirates of the Caribbean 5 (aka Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales) from July 10, 2015 to an undetermined date, which many are assuming means it will be moved to 2016. The reason? Apparently Jeff Nathanson's screenplay "was too expensive but it was also really complicated and hard to follow." Ha, that's funny.

The news comes a day after Disney and Marvel announced they were moving Edgar Wright's Ant-Man from a November 2015 release to July 31, 2015, two weeks after Warner Bros. releases Man of Steel 2 or Batman vs. Superman as most have come to know it.

Finally, Universal previously set Jurassic Park IV for a June 2014 release, but halted production back in May making sure fans knew the film would still be released with Safety Not Guaranteed helmer Colin Trevorrow still on board as they wanted to take additional time to deliver "the best possible version of the fourth installment in Universal's beloved franchise". Or so they say.

Today Universal announced the fourth film will now be titled Jurassic World and will hit theaters on June 12, 2015, two weeks before Warner's Terminator 5.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ian/ Ian

    Given that the biggest complaints against Pirates 2 and 3 were that they were complicated and hard to follow (which in reality meant that you actually had to pay attention to what was going on instead of sitting there mindlessly stuffing your face with popcorn), I'm not at all surprised that it's getting put in rewrites. Otherwise, just two more pieces of disposable cinema added to what promises to be the most disposable summer ever (though topping 2013 in that regard would be a true feat of awfulness).

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/JNFilms/ JN Films

    They'll probably make it mediocre instead of something that had potential.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/RonOnealFresh/ Ron Oneal Fresh

    "was too expensive but it was also really complicated and hard to follow." Ha, that's funny.
    Needed extra napkins to finish the screenplay?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/andyluvsfilms/ andyluvsfilms

    I hope Pirates 5 is delayed indefinitely, it's a loathsome and bloated franchise.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/TheLastEquivocationofBrist/ TheLastEquivocationofBrist

      It's a perfect example of the problem with sequelization.I really enjoyed the first movie and still do.

      Did it need a sequel? No. Did it need four sequels? HELL no. But Disney needed money so merrily we roll along.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Hudsucker/ Hudsucker

      I've only seen the 1st and 2nd one, but I might see this one if it gets decent reviews, because Kon Tiki was awesome.

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/andyluvsfilms/ andyluvsfilms

        Kon-Tiki was utterly awesome but Pirates 5 will suck.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/navaneethks/ navaneethks

    I'm probably going to hate 2015 with the million sequels coming out. Damn, Hollywood! Where is originality? Looks like the thing of the past.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Winchester/ Winchester

    I think they're confusing 'complicated' and 'convoluted' which are not the same thing. No Pirates movie has ever been complicated but they sure had about 5 storylines each that were not needed.

    I'm not interested in Pirates anyway, or at this point Terminator 5. Jurassic World has me curious for some reason but I'm not sure if moving Ant Man up is a good idea as it puts the two currently scheduled Marvel films fairly close together. I think keeping it where it was would have been better.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Artorious/ Steve Stager

      Without doing any research, I think this would help Ant Man, especially if it's after Avengers 2. This would allow it to ride on the coattails of that huge box office, allowing it to make more money than it would have.

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Winchester/ Winchester

        Perhaps, but I wonder if there's a risk attached to having them too close. If you're going to make around two films a year I think putting them at least 6 months apart where you can gives you time to let each film have space without riding too much on the coat-tails of the last.

        Not that I'm sure how long two a year can be maintained.

        • Adam James

          Indeed... "The Incredible Hulk" wasn't able to build much off of the success of "Iron Man", even with a cameo scene featuring RDJ. Of course, perhaps general audiences hadn't caught on to the linked nature of the films by then.

          Still, I think being the least-known superhero coming in at the tail end of a string of summer superhero films can't be the best combination.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Corbin/ Corbin

    Hey. Jurassic World. Is the whole world inhibited with Jurassic animals?

  • David Marc

    Pirates 5 delayed? Now I have to put my life on hold.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ryguy815/ Ryguy815

    Awesome. I'm glad Pirates 5 is delayed.

  • Adam James

    Winchester nailed it with the "convoluted" comment. Simpler is often better in films like that. The original wasnt overly convoluted... At least it had only one mystical element in the cursed gold, with rules and a history behind it that made it easy to convey to audiences quickly. Beyond that, everyone had clearly understandable motivations... Get the girl, get my ship, etc. Even stripping away the mythology of the gold left the pirates after treasure, which is a pretty clear goal for a pirate.

    The two sequels that follow, however, drowned in more mythology than The Lord of the Rings, and everyone's motivations were tied to the arbitrary bullshit rules of it. The bad guys need a compass, because the compass points to the thing one most desires, which will get them a heart which will give command over Davy Jones, who cut out his heart because he loved a goddess who tells the heroes to get a map to the edge of the world to rescue Capt. Jack from the afterlife because he has one of the Pieces of Eight that will let them call together the Pirate Council and so on and so on... It's not that it is too complicated to follow, it's that the honest and relatable motivations of any of the characters are buried under so much fabricated busywork unrelated to what they directly want. Go do this random thing and then you'll get what you're after because magic... But only after you do the next few random things. Ugh.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Winchester/ Winchester

      Although I'm not a fan there are worse films out there and I could even easily enough manage the expectations of the gibberish pretending to be mythos they became but after the first film I had plain old had enough of Captain Jack himself. The role is a one trick pony and Depp played out it's length very quickly.

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Winchester/ Winchester

        Actually when it comes to the fourth film scratch what I said about 'worse films out there' because that one really was that bad in every way.

        Unless you're really into Jack.

        • Adam James

          I've yet to see the fourth one, although I'm sure I'll catch it on cable sometime out of idle curiosity. Still, I enjoyed Captain Jack enough to revisit him, at least initially, but the fun was drained from his character in the sequels. Really though, by the time the villain was hanging people not because he was insanely devout about law and order or even to provoke a rescue plan from the heroes but because he wanted them to start singing a song (and once the song has been sung the Pirate lords must gather!) I really couldn't fathom how far off the rails this theme park ride had traveled.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Mikey/ Mikey

    Now what the hell am I supposed to do on July 15, 2015!?!

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Mikey/ Mikey

      I meant July 10th... God, I care about released dates so little that I forgot what it was while scrolling down to comment.

      • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/andyluvsfilms/ andyluvsfilms

        You could have a Pirates1 to 4-athon, unfortunately im busy that day otherwise i'd join you #winkitywink

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/jaybob/ jaybob

    So will this Jurassic World have Dinos with laser beams?

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Torryz/ Torryz

    Jurassic World could have the machines from Pacific Rim. Just saying.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Kimberlesk/ Kimberlesk

    Guess I'm the only one who enjoyed the Pirates Trilogy, especially the 3rd one. Pirates 4 was a bore. Should have left it as a Trilogy. As for Jurassic World, I'll probably see it, depending on the trailer/special effects. But again, why a fourth? The original Jurassic Park still plays well, 20 years later. Yeah, I know the answer -- MONEY.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ian/ Ian

      I actually enjoy each of the first three, albeit purely as popcorn entertainment (I guess I prefer fantasy and mythology in my popcorn to racist, sexist movies with talking robots). The fourth one was not good or necessary in any way, though honestly neither was two or three. But at least they attempted to create a cohesive, if retroactive, trilogy with a beginning, middle, and end. But four and now this one are the definition of disposable moviemaking and I have zero interest.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/maja/ maja

    Well Disney had to move something...they couldn't have Star Wars, Avengers 2 and Pirates 5 landing at the same time and with Pirate 5 likely to be the least profitable it makes sense. I would love it if Disney kept it in 2015 though just because it can be such a crazy year box office wise...something's gotta give!

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/Ian/ Ian

      I guess even Disney realized something has to give in that summer. I'm still intrigued about where Star Wars ultimately lands...at this point Memorial Day (May 22) is pretty much the only option they have left if they want it in summer '15. 2016 is pretty wide open still but they already have two Marvel movies, including one in May that will likely be Iron Man 4. Christmas is looking more and more plausible, though it would have to be a one time thing since they surely won't go up against Avatar in any of the following three years.

  • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/jess/ jess

    Hey Brad. I would just like to ask you if you have already seen "THE KINGS OF SUMMER"? Because if you have not seen it yet, i hope you will watch it. It's really a great film. I'm curious of your thoughts about it. Thank you in advance.

    • http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile/jess/ jess

      im sorry for posting this in this article.