DJ
Caruso is the director of the upcoming film
Two
for the Money. The film is based on the true
story of Brandon Lane (
Matt
McConaughey), while some details have been changed
the gist of the story remains. Brandon is an up and
coming predictor of pro football games who is taken
under the wing of lifetime addict Walter Abrams (
Al
Pacino).
The real Brandon Lane won 82% of his picks over the
course of 18 months, which is where the story draws its
central premise. During a press conference with DJ I
managed to get him to open up about the film the NFL,
gambling and more...
Question: What changes
were made to the actual story to get Two for the Money to
the big screen?
DJ Caruso: In reality we condensed Brandon's
story into one season, whereas this story took place
over the course of three years. Brandon advises Pacino's
character for a long time before the slide starts. Brandon
also played basketball, not football. In cinematic terms
we had to condense it. Making the movie in 43 days for
$20 million was a challenge; I'd like to make a movie
like this every year for the rest of my life if I could.
Question: Did you
attend any Gambler's Anonymous meetings?
DJ: Oh yeah, I went to three or four meetings.
One in Glendale, one in Hollywood. What was eye opening
for me was with all the new forms of gambling such as
slots it wasn't just sports gamblers, it was housewives
who play cards in the middle of the day. We wanted to
make this real and sincere, which came from going to
the meetings.
Question: Was working
with Pacino intimidating?
DJ: Oh
sure, particularly before rehearsal started. It's a daunting
task. If The
Godfather comes on I'm lost for three hours.
The first time you give Al Pacino direction is a telling
moment, but he wants to be directed so badly that it
was invigorating.
Question: How would
you compare Pacino here to his role in Glengarry
Glen Ross?
DJ: I think this character has a deeper sickness.
Walter was capable of loving; this was a guy who was
trying to do this for his family. I think he was a much
bigger dreamer. He was based on a real character and
exploring that led us to a very dark place. He can convince
you to bet against your mother. He's such a persuasive
person. Walter is a little more infectious than the character
from Glengarry Glen Ross.
Question: Pacino's
recent characters, such as in Donnie
Brasco or "Angels
in America" seem to have a tragedy that elevates
the drama.
DJ: I agree. The thing Al and I were working
to convey, for people who aren't gamblers or compulsive
gamblers, is that the high is in losing. It's a tough
concept to grasp because we all want to win. In the losing,
when they are raking the chips away, is when I feel most
alive. He is a tragic character.
Question: Was it
important for Brandon (McConaughey) to come from a pure
place, a place where he didn't gamble on sports?
DJ: I think it was. Being a gambler, and having
the audience understand it's not about the purity of
the sport. You can't watch a football game or an athletic
event the same if you are betting on it. It was important
to make that delineation. I wanted the audience to experience
a gambling experience, a winning experience and then
take the ride down.
Question: What
did Matthew bring to the role of Brandon?
DJ: Matthew
is a guy you can't help but root for. This was a guy
who never felt sorry for himself. He never got down;
he was always trying to win. Matthew is a very positive
character. His biggest aspect is you like him. As an
audience member you'll feel a little guilty rooting for
him. It is gambling.
Question: Are there
guys who win as much as Brandon's character does?
DJ: Brandon went 80 percent for 18 months. He
was just on fire. If you think about it, all you want
your advisor to do is go 55 percent.
Question: During
test screenings did the darker elements of this story
turn anybody off?
DJ: Well there are not many movies where you
actually piss on your movie star. You get a few people that run
out. Outside of an opening weekend the preview screenings are just
horrifying. You're worried that people involved with the movie
will be influenced by what this one guy says. It's horrifying.
If one hundred people said I don't get a certain aspect, they could
be beneficial.
It was a good process on this movie because when we
introduce Al's character there's laughter, it's a lot
of fun, almost like a real gambling experience. It was
refreshing to see the audience have a good time. On the
director's cut you'll see some darker things that were
too much for a general audience.
Question: Do you
gamble on games?
DJ: Yes. Football is my game of choice.
Question: There
also so many forms of pseudo-gambling like fantasy sports.
DJ: Yeah, or office pools. Not only that but most people
don't have a bookie anymore, it's mostly online. A lot of online
bookies the rise of poker. Gambling is at an all-time high, no
matter what happens with the economy.
Question: Do you
think gambling will ever be legal?
DJ: I don't think so. There's been a big government
push to make these offshore casinos close down. There's
probably a better chance of gambling being legalized
than smoking marijuana but it's along the same lines.
Question: Do you
have any rules with gambling?
DJ: I won't bet the Jets games (his home team).
I really make it a point not to bet on teams with my
heart. I do it more for fun.
Question: Did the
NFL give you any issues with the film?
DJ: Knowing we only had 43 days to
shoot the movie, all the footage you see of the actors
reacting to footage is green screen. The NFL would not
cooperate at all. We had to hire someone to come in and
shoot second unit football scenes. The NFL was so uncooperative
we couldn't call a team New York if the blue was the
same.
The NFL lawyers were watching everything we did and
were ready to sue us and shut us down because the NFL
does not want to be associated with gambling at all.
The irony of it was an August 9th preseason game was
the #1 rated show of the week, do you think that's because
someone wants to watch the fourth string Colts QB? The
networks cater to the gambler and to the fantasy leagues.
They just won't acknowledge it. So that was tough.
Question: What's
up next?
DJ: Right now I have a film at New Line with
Kate Hudson called Sleight of Mind written by
Ron Bass who wrote Rain Man. It's about Kate Hudson
and her boyfriend who are two grifters and their plan
to bilk this guy in Miami. We just got a greenlight on
it last week. Of course I want Jack Nicholson for the
guy they try to bilk. Everyone's like "Get Jack, Get
Jack."
Two for the Money opens this Friday.