Question: I
hear you have a movie coming out..
Joss Whedon: They tell me that.
Question: You're
everywhere, on my TiVo, on ads..
Joss: Good, Good, because a lot of people
have no idea who we are…
Question: Nice
to be getting the word out?
Joss: A little bit!
Question: First
off, congrats on a great movie coming from someone
who has never seen "Firefly", "Buffy", or "Angel".
Joss: Good. That's the best news. If I can't
reach that crowd, whoops I failed.
Question: Okay
let's get into this because I'm sure you're very
busy.
Joss: Do your worst.
Question: Is
Captain Mal a moral person? Do situational ethics
apply here?
Joss: I
think ultimately what defines him is he is a leader.
But there are two kinds. The pragmatist and the warrior.
The pragmatist is what he's become. He's only going
to be focused on the safety of him and his peeps,
getting his job done. The warrior is more idealistic,
in the service of something greater but it can also
make him a little scarier. The safety of him and
his crew is no longer the issue; it really is the
greater moral scheme.
A real leader basically needs to have both. The
arc of the movie is him going from one to the other.
But he's always got the distance from the crew that
a leader has. He's a guy who feels things strongly
morally, but it ruined his life so he turns his back
on it. Someone like Jayne doesn't feel it as strongly
but also doesn't have to deny it in himself.
Question: In
the end people follow him because they see something
in it for them?
Joss: I think everyone follows for that
reason. Zoe follows because he saved her life. She
follows him into a lot of stupid places. She's a
happily married woman, she's not an adrenaline junky,
and she could get work anywhere. So could Wash. She
stays with Mal out of a sense of something greater,
a sense of trust and obligation. Everybody gets something
from the person they are following or guess what?
They don't follow.
Question: Who
do you feel River follows?
Joss: The
whole point of River is she doesn't follow anyone.
She's an agent of chaos. In the Maxwell Smart version
that means she's a bad guy! She's not in control
of herself, but when she is she's her own conscious.
This is more clear in the show.
Does someone that crazy have a moral compass? Yes
she does. I think by the end of the film she's doing
what she's going to do. Nobody tells her what to
do, but if I make a sequel somebody might.
Question: Is
there a number you are trying to hit for week one
financially?
Joss: No one has given me a number. I don't
see this as a huge out of the gate movie. Ultimately
I'm more interested in week two.
Question: Is
there a number that gets us a sequel?
Joss: I think I heard something like fifty
million domestic or eighty million worldwide, that
would set some wheels in motion.
Question: I'd
bet my car you hit that.
Joss: I hope to God you get to keep your
car.
Question: I
was at a press junket where you discussed The
Fly II, would you tell me your idea?
Joss: Okay, there were three scientists
who are using the teleporters to gene splice. They
discover the teleporters, two of them are best friends.
One of them is the odd man out. He gets fucking pissed,
he's not cool. He takes one of the two hero types
and puts him in with the fly. It's a gradual thing
and the premise of the movie is the friends start
really not getting along. They start going at each
other. We find out he put him in with a spider. It
ends up with a horrible mutated battle royals with
these two guys who loved each other.
Question: What
is one thing you would have done with Alien: Resurrection?
Joss: Do you have nine hours? There is nothing
I would have done the same except hire Sigourney.
In spite of everything she managed to do a wonderful
job. That movie is a lecture I give to students on
how not to make a movie.
Question: In Serenity you
blend some Chinese culture in with Western. What
do you feel the strengths and weaknesses are of both?
Joss: I don't know Chinese culture well
enough to speak with authority on it, but when we
think about East vs. West we tend to think about
conformity vs. individualism. I think if we are going
to create a system that works for everyone it will
have to be a fusion of the two. There is a glorious
celebration of the self in western culture that is
quickly mutating into an appalling selfishness. And
there's sublimation of the self in some Eastern cultures
that, quite frankly, has the seeds of greatness that
contains the seeds of actual community and altruism.
The point of Serenity is neither extreme is
going to work.
We need a bunch of individualists who aren't full
of themselves. What we need are people who are allowed
to be themselves and use the time to help people
around them. Mal states very specifically you can't
codify human behavior and take the main tenets and
say they're all bad. Everybody in the world wants
to have sex, and that's a sin? Let's just say pride
is useful, pride is deadly. Somewhere in the middle
lies the way we should be. Obviously the middle is
where our heroes are. The middle can see both sides.
Question: Do
you see a director's cut on the DVD?
Joss: No. This is the director's cut. I
give Universal credit. In all the times we butted
heads their only intent was to make the most solid
streamline storytelling they could get. There's things
I took out I love but I understood why they needed
to be taken out. The movie is much better now than
it has ever been.
Question: I
know you said you don't have anything official story
wise on sequels, but do you at least have an ending
in your mind to this epic?
Joss: I have about seven. I have many endings
to this whole epic, but one movie at a time is my
motto. Do I spend a ton of time thinking of sequels?
Yeah, I gotta have my fun.
Question: Do
fan expectations ever seem unwieldy or too much to
be responsible for?
Joss: If people start wearing shirts that
say, "Joss is no longer my master..."
Question: Did
you catch that on thinkgeek.com?
Joss: I've seen it on a few fans. If I'm
their master how come no one is bringing me breakfast?
Or at least fetching my paper? Ultimately they are
responding to what I do and that makes me happy.
If they are excited it's because that's happening.
I am as critical a fan as there is. Ultimately it
doesn't feel like pressure, it feels like support.
Question: Any
chance you'd go back to TV with Serenity?
Joss: I love TV. It's a totally different
mode of storytelling. It's rich and textured in a
way that movies never will be. It's absolutely glorious,
but it's a hard, hard business and I felt unwelcome
in the landscape on TV. The medium as a storytelling
means to me is completely unique and delightful.
I'd just want to go back to TV with enough armor
on that when they start shooting at me, I live. It's
up to a bunch of other people. I'd like to do a sequel
but if they say they'd rather do a television show
I'd consider that. I want to keep telling stories
with them.
Question: Is
it accurate to say you didn't receive pressure to
cast names in Serenity?
Joss: It is accurate to say that. They said "can
we do a name villain" which I was totally supportive
of but then they said, "Just get a good actor." They
knew the package was these guys and me.
Question: You
talked about Goner...
Joss: It's actually Goners,
they got it wrong!
Question: You
talked about Goners being darker where Serenity is
light. Is it important to have a balance?
Joss: It's always important to have a balance. Goners is
a movie with a lot of beautiful inspirational human
stuff but it's also a horror movie. It ain't no western!
Ultimately its about a darker place in all of us.
The balance is different; I'm going to do something
different in Goners than I did in Toy
Story. I don't think I'll do anything as
scary in goners as the mutant toys.
Question: Any
chance Sarah
Michelle Geller would be involved?
Joss: You
know it will need a really, really good actress to
pull it off so if there's a list her name will definitely
be on it.
Question: Is
the world of Wonder
Woman realistic or fictional?
Joss: It will be a hyperbolic realistic
world. It would be realistic in the way that Three
Kings was. It would be one step to the left of
real, but it wouldn't be Gotham.
Question: Your
stories preach ordinary people doing extraordinary
things, you tend to gravitate towards those people.
Joss: I don't believe in extraordinary people,
certainly not in politics. Ordinary people do extraordinary
things, extraordinary people do damage. I do think
the only people who are interesting are us. You might
call them the chosen, but the minute they start acting
like it, choose someone else.
Question: So
will your superheroes be normal?
Joss: With Wonder
Woman her flaw is that she's that guy. Her
basic flaw is that she's so extraordinary she can't
find out how this world works. So she's the exact
opposite of the Serenity crew but she's
going to run into the same problems everybody does.
What is my place? How do I fit in? How can I help?
Those are the questions all of my heroes are going
to be asking themselves because every morning I
wake up asking myself that. That and why does my
head hurt so much?
Question: Do
you consider yourself isolated or alienated?
Joss: Yeah, 'cause I got me some book learning!
No, I've always felt a remove from society. All my
life, but most specifically when I was eleven I started
thinking I don't understand people, I don't understand
why they all sit around and talk about nothing. I'm
not that smart, but I am that alienated. So that
leads to a lot of reading and being one step removed
has made me an artist. It's also been what my art
is all about. Aloneness. Not loneliness, but aloness.
It's what everybody faces. Facing that is the most
terrifying and glorious thing a person can do.
Ultimately I've felt outside or adjacent to every
group I've been a part of. But at the same time it
gives you the distance. It's what Sondheim says; "Studying
a face, stepping back to look at a face leaves a
little space in the way like a window. But to see...
it's the only way to see."
Serenity hits theaters September 30th. I
highly suggest you check it out.
~
Laremy Legel