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Questioning ‘Twilight’: Will It be a Box-Office Hit?

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On Monday when I asked “Who’s the Next Big Male Movie Star?” it was just an article I thought of writing at the last minute. There wasn’t any kind of ranking system, just something to get the brain working and ask a question. However, it turned into quite a one-sided debate as Robert Pattinson fans dominated the comment section and once again Twilight fandom took control and an article today at The Hollywood Reporter is asking an equally difficult question with regard to Twilight: “But will the buzz translate into blockbuster box-office?”

The following paragraph quickly reminds us how difficult the question is to answer:

The question has become one of the industry’s most debated. Its answer will offer a referendum not just on Summit’s ability to shepherd a studio-style hit but also on whether franchises can be created on modest budgets at a time when production and distribution costs are skyrocketing and the YouTube generation is harder to reach than ever.

To have an enraged Twilighter explain it to you the “Twilight” book series is the biggest and greatest series of books of all-time and it has sold enough copies alone to guarantee the film is a box-office success. Of course, this is from a die-hard fan perspective and we can appreciate fan expectations, but they aren’t always realistic as much as they are optimistic in their confidence.

As the THR article points out, unlike “Harry Potter” or “The Da Vinci Code” — two other literary sensations that became film franchises — “Twilight” is not a mega-best-seller. And the teen demographic that devours the novels can be especially fickle when it comes to its film choices.

I made a slight attempt at finding actual sales figures to do any kind of comparison between the “Twilight” books and others but wasn’t able to find any immediately. However, the fourth book in the “Twilight” series, “Breaking Dawn”, which was released at the beginning of August sold an estimated 1.3 million copies in its first 24 hours. That is, of course, a large number, but it doesn’t really compare to the 8.3 million copies of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” sold in its first 24 hours. As for “The Da Vinci Code” it is estimated to have sold approximately 40 million copies worldwide. Meanwhile, the four “Twilight” novels are ranked 4, 5, 6 and 7 at Amazon.com, while ranked 9, 10, 13 and 35 at Barnes and Noble. I offer these numbers up for you to make your own conclusion, but book sales hardly translate to box-office glory.

(On a quick side note, if anyone can find and source actual book sales figures and send me a link that would be fantastic!)

“If I were marketing this movie, I’d want to make sure it doesn’t look like it’s based on the books, because anyone who reads the books is already in the tent,” Syracuse University pop culture professor Robert Thompson tells THR. “Make it look like a rip-roaring good story about vampires that doesn’t make a 12-year-old boy say, ‘That’s what the girls are reading.’ ”

Summit realizes this and is going to have to go for more than just the teen female audience. THR reminds us of TwilightMOMS and says the obvious goal is to attract boys, who for decades have been willing to embrace metaphors for their own adolescence via superhero movies. To this end, Summit has generated trailers (including footage shown at Comic-Con) stressing the action scenes. As one rival studio marketing exec puts it, “If they just get teenage girls, they’re dead.

One recent film targeting teen girls was The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2, which quietly garnered $43.8 million on a $27 million production budget. Twilight is budgeted at $37 million (according to Summit; some peg its cost at $40 million-$50 million), but alternatively some box-office prognosticators tell THR the film could earn back close to its budget during its opening weekend alone. An opening weekend that was once home to Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince before Harry moved to Summer 2009 and Twilight swooped in hoping to take advantage of the pre-Thanksgiving release date.

The Hollywood Reporter article goes on to say that while the final cut of the film has been seen by a select few and Summit plans on only a few additional trailers prior to its November 21 release, the film is said to remain true to the tone and the pivotal moments in the book, including two key sequences involving Bella and Edward being chased at a baseball game and Edward showing his daylight self in a meadow.

Some changes were made, which is to be expected. Noted is one scene in which Bella confronts Edward about his vampire secret went from a slow reveal over dozens of pages to a single high-pitched confrontation.

Will the changes matter to the fans or does the mere physical representation of the much loved Edward and Bella on the big screen be enough? If the film stinks will that stop the die hards from returning to see it again and again? If the film is deemed fantastic will that urge naysayers to give it a chance?

The Hollywood Reporter says Summit is counting on fans to spread the word to other age groups or even to come back for Titanic-esque repeat viewings. To compare Twilight to Titanic is a bold move, even if it is just a mild comparison. However, the question is still out there as to how well Twilight will actually do. It certainly is maintaining its buzz, but it’s an unknown entity. I can’t imagine Twilight not making its money back, the real question is just how high will it go?

If you haven’t seen it yet, here is the latest trailer for the film and don’t forget to vote in the poll below.


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I think it will make its money back. I don’t think it will have a huge opening weekend though. There is A LOT of people out there that are thrashing this movie so I don’t expect anyone who is not a Twilight fan to go. I sure as hell wont go see it. If I want to watch cheap special effects I’ll just watch the Sci-fi channel.

I’m just glad I got to comment before this place gets attacked by teenage girls.

- ravidlaz
( October 3rd, 2008 | 2:54 am )
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I have to laugh at the constant teen comments about Twilight fans. I’d take a guess that most people who commented on Rob Pattinson in earlier articles on here are well into the 20’s or even older. So wake up and realise this isnt a teen phenomena. Personally even a huge fan of Rob I dont think the film will be mega huge but then it was made quite cheaply so I think Summit will be very happy with $37 million opening weekend. I suspect this franchise will be a slow build with more money invested in New Moon and so on.

- Kerry
( October 3rd, 2008 | 5:04 am )
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Forgot to say I dont think that single men will go see it but women/girls will definitely drag partners along. Takign a wild guess I supect the guys who visit ropesofsilicon WONT be seeing the film.

- Kerry
( October 3rd, 2008 | 5:08 am )
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Because of the petty jibes I also feel the need to say I’m a middle aged woman (shock horror not many of those on ropesofsilicon I bet). Havent read all the twilight books (gasps) and am only seeing this film to go see the delectable and super talented Mr Pattinson. Box office hit - what does that really mean - if it doesnt reach a batman level opening is it a failure. I can never work out what a hit means these days. If its how much it takes over the first weekend compared to how much it cost to make then I think it will be a huge hit but I think the poll choices are misleading so wont bother responding to that. Its like youve already decided to compare it with a huge comic book film costing $100- 150 million.

Persoanlly I;d rather they didnt make more Twilight films as Pattinson can do so much better. I;d rather he went on to do other more testing work. He can do these roles with one arm behind his back.

One interesting bit of feedback. Some people at EW have seen the first 40 minutes of Twilight and have said its very very good.

- Wendynew
( October 3rd, 2008 | 6:23 am )
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To me it seems a bit like this generation’s Lost Boys.
Will it take the same path?

- RaTTleR_NL
( October 3rd, 2008 | 7:08 am )
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And you ladies aren’t helping your case with the obsessiveness.

- ebok007
( October 3rd, 2008 | 8:19 am )
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I find myself amused that everyone insists that these books only appeal to teen girls. Yes, that was its starter market but we parents of teen girls are being roped into the story one by one. :P And more and more males are starting to admit they like the books too. One guy friend of mine refers to them as literary heroin. :P Another male acquaintance tried for months to get me to read them and I had no interest until my daughter sat me down and told me to read them. Now I can’t put them down.

I expect the movie to make back its money and then some. Do I expect it to smash the competition? no, its not a 150 million budget movie, nor does it make any pretense at trying to be. Its supposed to be an intimate story with more action sequences to watch as Bella was unconscious for them in the books and obviously couldn’t describe it. I’ll be going with my daughter to see the movie. I actually expect this movie to be a huge cult classic that smashes sales when it hits DVD. Going to the movies is just too damn expensive.

- Nightshadow7373
( October 3rd, 2008 | 10:45 am )
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I think it has a huge online audience, like Serenity, but very little crossover appeal. I’d say an opening in the $30s could happen, and it will probably hit $65m overall domestically. Probably not much international appeal. It will make just enough money to make a sequel option a tough choice.

- Laremy
( October 3rd, 2008 | 12:15 pm )
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I really believe Twilight will be an international sensation.. yes.. hard for your readers to believe apparently. Just wait till you see the reception the stars get at the Film Festival in Rome at the end of the month. (and obviously you haven’t seen the sites, from all over South America, Mexico, Asia, and all across Europe).
That kind of buzz, doesn’t just evaporate even if the movie is not "summer blockbuster material". It will easily break the 100 million mark (the reason it’s compared to Titanic, is because fans "will" return to watch it again and again)
Will it be enough to make it an instant hit?.. for Summit definitely, ensuring a sequel that they can and will improve on when the big numbers come in.
No worries from this "fan".. and yes I’m proud to be one!

- bellsfromep
( October 3rd, 2008 | 12:58 pm )
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bellsfromep said: It will easily break the 100 million mark (the reason it’s compared to Titanic, is because fans "will" return to watch it again and again)

Will they return if the film blows or just OK at best? …And let’s face it, that looks likely considering the lameass footage, and even more so when you consider a hack like Catherine Hardwicke is helming the film.

- davidfrank
( October 3rd, 2008 | 2:44 pm )
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First, I’d like to get clarification on what it takes to not be considered a ‘hack’ in the directorial world…?

And, I have no doubts whatsoever, that Twilight will be a ‘box-office’ hit. The questions in the poll does not limit the voting to ‘opening weekend’ but it leads the reader to believe it’s talking of overall box office success. I too believe it will break the $100 million mark…though no, not in the first weekend…overall.

And again, while the books were placed in the young adult genre, much like the HP books were, fans of the books range from 11-12 year old to 50+ year olds. Yes, 50+ men and women. Do all of them frequent this website? Um, no. Sorry.

But you know what? We all just have to sit back and wait. All the guessing and estimating and put-downs and build-ups will have nothing to do with the final numbers. The numbers will speak for themselves.

The same goes for the talent that is Robert Pattinson. Yes, I’m going there. So what if he has a fan-base willing to take the time to vote for him, to talk about him, to defend him. So what? It’s more than I can say for fanbases of a lot of other actors. You’d think it would be obvious that by all of the fans responding to RoS’s first article about ‘the next big make movie star’ we got more written up on Rob Pattinson. And look here, even more on the actor and his film and fans. Wow…it’s almost like free press DOES work.

But back to the topic at hand. Over $100 million by the time the film leaves theatres. And then, just imagine the DVD sales. I’m not worried about this film OR Rob’s career in the least.

Thanks for another article and more PR on Rob and the film!

- shannon
( October 3rd, 2008 | 3:27 pm )
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Given the recent hype around the Twilight cast, especially Robert Pattinson, I consider it highly likely that there will be a lot of repeat viewers. And this may go well beyond the teenage crowd, who will gladly sacrifice their entire allowance for as long as Twilight is in theaters to get a glimpse of their favorite heartthrob time and again.

And, indeed, it has happened before: I actually met a middle-aged woman in 1997, who went to see Titanic seven (!) times in one week. I highly doubt she quit after the seventh time either (didn’t look like it)… Something similar will probably happen here, and then there will be the DVD sales for everyone who still didn’t get their Twilight fix. I would find it much more interesting to see, if the movie itself (all Pattinson fanaticism aside) will generate enough interest for all the sequels to be made and be well received.

And - even more interesting - how will the filmmakers go about it? The characters in the books are not supposed to age, but the real-life actors won’t be so lucky. Unless they go about it the "Lord of the Rings" way and film them all in one go, we will be seeing the young actors approaching 30 by the time things wrap up with the fourth installment. This worked out okay for Harry Potter, because they are supposed to be maturing, but it’s a very different story in the Twilight series.

- Tamara K.
( October 3rd, 2008 | 3:28 pm )
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I think it will do great, I predict around 50-60mil. That’s pretty good taking in account the small budget. It makes me laugh that non-Twilight fans think it’s only a bunch of 14 year olds reading the books. You’d be surprised. I personally, don’t know anyone under the age of 20 reading the book. And I’m around a lot of Twilight fans. I’ve also met a ton online, none under the age of 18. But anyways, that rant aside. I’m going to say the movie will definitely be a hit.

- Pinkstarlett84
( October 3rd, 2008 | 4:34 pm )
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Laremy said: I think it has a huge online audience, like Serenity, but very little crossover appeal. I’d say an opening in the $30s could happen, and it will probably hit $65m overall domestically. Probably not much international appeal. It will make just enough money to make a sequel option a tough choice.

Actually the sequal is already going ahead. The script for New Moon is complete and they start filming in January. Hardwicke no doubt will be scouting for locations in Rome when she attends the film festival later this month.:D:D:hello:

Thanks for the Pr for the franchise and Rob Pattinson in particular.

- ruthie
( October 3rd, 2008 | 4:40 pm )
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Theres so many comments goin around about the ropeofsilicon veiws…like people from this site arnt open to movies or somthing?? But I think people are failing to realize that no one from ropeofsilicon brought any of this twilight stuff up, Brad just made a quick poll, THEN tons of people come on here trying to push that this movie/the actor are….amazing and that hes the best and the movie has to be good, but you do realize this is a site for movie news? its to see whats up about all movies and to have a good time. Movie could be good, could be bad, personaly ill be seeing it and I will most likely enjoy it especially since i like anything to do with vampires, but I just wanna say this site is not a hate site for twilight, nor are all the people here. lol I just cant wait till its released so all this can be put to rest and well have some accual numbers.

- JD92
( October 3rd, 2008 | 5:36 pm )
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[quote]I just cant wait till its released so all this can be put to rest and well have some actual numbers.[/quote]

I couldn’t agree more! Very similar to what I said, somewhere in the middle of my post…

- shannon
( October 3rd, 2008 | 7:01 pm )
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I’m seeing it 5 times, with different people. Plus I am going opening day!! I think it will be huge, pretty much most of my high skool is going opening day… just drag along the guys :)

- twilighter18
( October 3rd, 2008 | 7:14 pm )
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Well, if anyone could reliably and accurately predict box office figures 100% of the time, they’d be pulling down the really big bucks and living it up in Hollywood right now.

That said, I think the audience for Twilight is wider than many believe, the enthusiasm of that audience is underestimated, and that overall the film is going to do very, very well.

I can’t speak for all Twilight fans (I am one, but I’m really more of a Pattinson fan), but I believe the strength of the reactions you might be receiving is due to the pandering and dismissive nature of some comments made by journalists and bloggers about this fan base. As pointed out in other comments, these fans are not just a bunch of squealing 14-year-old girls. Sure, there are plenty of squealing girls in the mix, but anyone who thinks that particular group is the entire audience is going to be very surprised. I am part of a large and very varied internet group that talks about this film a lot and yes, most of the posters are adults (and no, it’s not the now-famous Twilight Moms site…although they have a huge group as well).

I hate to throw gender into the mix…but the fact that this audience is predominently female seems to make it a target. I can’t help but think that if this movie had a large and enthusiastic teenage and young MALE following, the comments would be completely different. Instead, we’d be hearing about how the movie was going to make back its budget during the first week and breaking $100-million in two or three. Yes, young males are a huge part of Hollywood’s business and they tend to drive big business…but females can, too. That is, they can if Hollywood actually does a great film that is catered to them.

So, that brings us to the great unknown. Is the movie going to be any good? I haven’t seen it so I will have to say I have no idea. I will say that from what I’ve read, they seem to be doing everything right: the script was good, the marketing looks solid, and I frankly think Catherine Hardwicke hit it out of the ballpark with the casting. I believe that in the end, if the chemistry between the two main characters, Bella and Edward, is right…nothing else will matter. The film will explode…and yes there will be tons of repeat viewings.

I think the chemistry is better than "right", therefore I’ve got to predict $100 million plus.

- robineau
( October 3rd, 2008 | 7:15 pm )
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robineau said: Well, if anyone could reliably and accurately predict box office figures 100% of the time, they’d be pulling down the really big bucks and living it up in Hollywood right now.

That said, I think the audience for Twilight is wider than many believe, the enthusiasm of that audience is underestimated, and that overall the film is going to do very, very well.

I can’t speak for all Twilight fans (I am one, but I’m really more of a Pattinson fan), but I believe the strength of the reactions you might be receiving is due to the pandering and dismissive nature of some comments made by journalists and bloggers about this fan base. As pointed out in other comments, these fans are not just a bunch of squealing 14-year-old girls. Sure, there are plenty of squealing girls in the mix, but anyone who thinks that particular group is the entire audience is going to be very surprised. I am part of a large and very varied internet group that talks about this film a lot and yes, most of the posters are adults (and no, it’s not the now-famous Twilight Moms site…although they have a huge group as well).

I hate to throw gender into the mix…but the fact that this audience is predominently female seems to make it a target. I can’t help but think that if this movie had a large and enthusiastic teenage and young MALE following, the comments would be completely different. Instead, we’d be hearing about how the movie was going to make back its budget during the first week and breaking $100-million in two or three. Yes, young males are a huge part of Hollywood’s business and they tend to drive big business…but females can, too. That is, they can if Hollywood actually does a great film that is catered to them.

So, that brings us to the great unknown. Is the movie going to be any good? I haven’t seen it so I will have to say I have no idea. I will say that from what I’ve read, they seem to be doing everything right: the script was good, the marketing looks solid, and I frankly think Catherine Hardwicke hit it out of the ballpark with the casting. I believe that in the end, if the chemistry between the two main characters, Bella and Edward, is right…nothing else will matter. The film will explode…and yes there will be tons of repeat viewings.

I think the chemistry is better than "right", therefore I’ve got to predict $100 million plus.

Very well said. =D> I think even with the enormous buzz it’s created. People still underestimate it. I think the nay sayers will be very surprised.

- Silverdreamz09
( October 3rd, 2008 | 7:35 pm )
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shannon said: First, I’d like to get clarification on what it takes to not be considered a ‘hack’ in the directorial world…? [/B]

It’s quite simple, really. You don’t have Lords of Dogtown and The Nativity Story on your resume.

Oh, and I’ve sat next to Hardwicke as she discussed Twilight, and you don’t exactly dig yourself out of the hack hole when the most intellectually profound statement you can muster is "Vampires are sexy. They’re not like creepy old zombies and mummies. They’re sexy. They’re hot."

- davidfrank
( October 3rd, 2008 | 7:39 pm )
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I fail to see how Hardwicke’s replies to 6500 screaming young women can possibly be seen as making her a hack. I think Hardwicke was a good choice for this movie. She is good at developing relationships. I personally loved how she focused on the building relationship between Mary and Joseph in The Nativity. And Twilight is about the developing relationship between Bella and Edward. If movie goers connect to their relationship the same way they connected to it in the books, this movie will have lots of repeat business.

My earlier post about box office numbers was for the opening weekend only. I still think its DVD sales will be bigger overall.

As for Rob Pattinson fans, he is a very good actor. He’s very versital. He has a varied resume playing everything from nerds to jocks. Harry Potter and Twilight will show that Rob can bring in a cash audience, movies like How to Be and Little Ashes will show he’s an "authentic actor" and not some pretty boy.

- Nightshadow7373
( October 3rd, 2008 | 10:10 pm )
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davidfrank said: It’s quite simple, really. You don’t have Lords of Dogtown and The Nativity Story on your resume.

Oh, and I’ve sat next to Hardwicke as she discussed Twilight, and you don’t exactly dig yourself out of the hack hole when the most intellectually profound statement you can muster is "Vampires are sexy. They’re not like creepy old zombies and mummies. They’re sexy. They’re hot."

Her past work aside, as that has nothing to do with the work she’s put into Twilight, I’d like to discuss your views on the response you quoted her as saying…

It sounds to me, and I have no idea about the quote in context - IE: to whom she was speaking, and what the question was exactly - but based on her response, and many other responses she’s given to a multitude of questions, she’s very smart in how she answers. She estimates who her audience is or will be, and she plays into their hands. In the quote you’ve posted, her response sounds like she’s specifically talking to the Twilight novel fans, perhaps Comic Con, or another venue that has many of the novel readers present. She seems to be telling her audience what they want to hear.

Common sense to me. Play the crowd you have. If you’re doing an interview for Time Magazine AND then another for, say, Seventeen Magazine, and you are asked the very same question…wouldn’t your answer be different? Mine would. I would think about the readers of Time and word the response accordingly. If it’s the Seventeen Mag interview (or say, Comic Con,) I would give the very response she gave. I imagine, if that quote is from Comic Con or something similar, that response brought about many a scream and a cheer.

Nothing wrong with working the crowd.

But, as I said, I don’t know the context of davidfrank’s quote.

Again I say, $100 million + … easy.

(And as usual…excellent post and points robineau!!)

- shannon
( October 3rd, 2008 | 10:22 pm )
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I am NOT a teen, I AM biased, admittedly, and in my opinion this film will be a hit. Whether that applies to "box-office" success or not, I’m not at all concerned.

I believe that despite nay-sayers, negative attitude by reviewers jaded from constant immersion to Indy-burn, and the Duran Duran-esque obsessiveness of the tween fandom, the audience for this film will be surprising and diverse.

Now, as with anything in our media manipulated world, if this doesn’t translate to some huge numbers earnings-wise, the film and the hype will be discounted and underestimated. I can only say to this sort of jaundiced mentality, it won’t matter one tiny bit to any Twilight fan worth their weight.

- niceiceedward
( October 3rd, 2008 | 10:56 pm )
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If the movie is good (true to the book, exciting, right chemistry etc) then the amount of fans who will see the movie more than once is pretty large. I don’t think opening weekend will go great but overall I believe it will make a significant profit.

- georgia13
( October 4th, 2008 | 1:59 am )
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Ok I have to agree that not all of the fans of Twilight are teenagers. I am 25 years old and absolutely love this series and can not wait to see the movie. I am also a huge fan of Robert Pattinson. It only helps that they cast him in the film as far as I am concerned. When I went to the midnight release for Breaking Dawn there were more middle aged and my aged women there than there were teenage girls. I was suprised to see that. So no, Twilight is not only loved by teens or tweens as I have heard also..
And as far as numbers go sales of the books can not really predict whether it is going to be a hit or not. What about all of the people who love it and didn’t buy the books but read someone elses copy.

- Angb
( October 4th, 2008 | 7:42 pm )
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A better question is will The Curious Case of Benjamin Button make its budget back???

- BeautifulM
( October 4th, 2008 | 11:08 pm )
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i might get dragged to this…. not cool … im not that interested in this movie i dont care for this actor rob pattison that much ive seen him in one movie ( harry potter) and he was good in it but i dont kno any other movie hes been in so i cant really say that i like his acting. How well do vampire movies do ? even if its from a book will it do well , im gunn go with its gunna make its money back and then some only because of this fan base its aquired . What will the ratings be ? ill say below average so like a C+ at best.

- ranman14
( October 5th, 2008 | 12:05 pm )
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There aren’t enough teenage girl Twilight freaks in the world to bank more than 100 million I can guarantee you that!!!! 100 million or more…..WHAT A JOKE!!!

- tycox
( October 5th, 2008 | 12:55 pm )
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definately makes money back and some, I am being conservative, But I am telling you I know, way to many people that are over 20, waiting for this movie. I know It will be huge!

- azun
( October 5th, 2008 | 3:32 pm )
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I know this movie is the right rating for my family, 4 people in my family is going to watch this movie. I know a lot of us are going with family, friends , girlfriends, etc. We can hardly wait for the movie!

- azun
( October 5th, 2008 | 3:42 pm )
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shannon said: Her past work aside, as that has nothing to do with the work she’s put into Twilight, I’d like to discuss your views on the response you quoted her as saying…

It sounds to me, and I have no idea about the quote in context - IE: to whom she was speaking, and what the question was exactly.

Common sense to me. Play the crowd you have. If you’re doing an interview for Time Magazine AND then another for, say, Seventeen Magazine, and you are asked the very same question…wouldn’t your answer be different?
I would give the very response she gave. I imagine, if that quote is from Comic Con or something similar, that response brought about many a scream and a cheer.

Yes, her past work can be used to gauge the "possible" quality of her upcoming work. If Uwe Boll was making Twilight, wouldn’t you use his previous work as a barometer for your expectations. The same could be said if Peter Jackson was making Twilight, in which the standard would be much much higher. When a filmmaker, such as Hardwicke, had made 2 awful films and one mediocre one I like to stay within the world of reality and keep my expectations low for her next (and maybe I’ll be surprised).

As for the context of my favorite quote. The question was what was the appeal of vampires? That was the direct answer to that question…and yes, an answer perfect for teenage girls. However, Hardwicke, who came off as a complete flake, kept repeating the same phrase throughout in off-hand remarks "I want to be bitten by vampire." (stuff that I didn’t even bother wasting the time to transcribe when I posted the interview). The group she was talking to was a cynical round-table of male web reporters at comic-con. So she wasn’t exactly playing to the crowd very well. Nor did she give any sense that the she had any understanding of the genre or material above an 11th grade education.

- davidfrank
( October 6th, 2008 | 10:23 am )
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BeautifulM said: A better question is will The Curious Case of Benjamin Button make its budget back???

I think the question is which movie will still be remembered in 5, 10, 20+ years. I’d bet on The Curious Case of Benjamin Button winning on that.

- davidfrank
( October 6th, 2008 | 10:25 am )
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I guess we’ll know all in a few short months.

If the number of views on the latest trailer are any sign, I’d say tycox’s statement could be a bit off…regarding something to the affect of ‘there aren’t enough teenage girls to get Twilight to the $100 million mark.’ (Again, I paraphrase.)

And so I’d just like to say that no, I agree that there aren’t enough teenage girls to get it to that high a number, but with the help of the twenty-something’s and the thirty-something’s who are bringing husbands and boyfriends, and then going back with their other 20-30 something girlfriends…well, them and the teenage girls, and the curious boys…I don’t see that goal being unreachable.

As for Hardwicke…I liked the Nativity Story and I’ve heard nothing but good things about Thirteen and Lords of Dogtown. But to each their own.

As I started…we’ll know all in a few months.

- shannon
( October 12th, 2008 | 4:37 pm )
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: this is Serenity all over again. Summit is relying solely on the fans of the book to do their marketing for them, confident from the level of the noise that this alone will bring them to box office success. But Serenity didn’t make its money back; it fell just shy of its $39M price tag in global release. I’ve only heard a few semi-literate defenses of the books, and they seem to consist of, "Yeah, they’re shallow, but it’s an engaging story." This may be true, but the trailer doesn’t give us engaging. It just gives us shallow.

It doesn’t help that these same fans are actively alienating anyone who isn’t already a fan of the book, rather than trying to convert them to their side. Instead of trying to make the movie sound more appealing, the basic response seems to be, "It’s our movie, leave us alone!" And so we will, and we’ll take our money with us.

Given the pretty stiff competition next weekend (Bolt is getting good buzz and has an excellent marketing campaign, and Madagascar, Role Models, and Bond will likely have good legs), I’ll be surprised if Twilight opens at more than $10M and absolutely floored if it opens at more than $20M. I’d look for a total domestic take of well under $75M, with little added from international sales.

- aerinpegadrak
( November 15th, 2008 | 3:02 pm )
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