Comments on: POLL: 'WALL-E' or 'The Dark Knight' – Which One has the Best Chance at an Oscar Nomination? http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination The best and latest movie news, reviews, features and editorials - updated daily Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:42:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Chad http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-7356 Chad Sun, 28 Dec 2008 02:46:45 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-7356 If TDK gets a best pic nomination, I'll down a 6-pack to that. However, if Wall-E gets one, the cork is coming off this 20year old scotch in rapturous celebration. If TDK gets a best pic nomination, I'll down a 6-pack to that. However, if Wall-E gets one, the cork is coming off this 20year old scotch in rapturous celebration.

]]> By: Dangerman_1973 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-7072 Dangerman_1973 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:10:20 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-7072 I was hoping for Iron Man. I was hoping for Iron Man.

]]> By: Dangerman1973 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-7071 Dangerman1973 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:06:41 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-7071 @<a href="#comment-6767" rel="nofollow">Shawn</a>: Agreed. @Shawn: Agreed.

]]> By: Clark http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-7005 Clark Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:36:21 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-7005 I'm hoping Wall-E does break into the best picture category. It was a splendid film. I'm hoping Wall-E does break into the best picture category. It was a splendid film.

]]> By: Dangerman_1973 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-7004 Dangerman_1973 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:31:19 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-7004 If Pixar works with other studios rather than be Disney's... and worked on more serious adult-oriented fare like Japanese Anime rather than the same old family-friendly fare, they would be much better a company. If Pixar works with other studios rather than be Disney's… and worked on more serious adult-oriented fare like Japanese Anime rather than the same old family-friendly fare, they would be much better a company.

]]> By: Kj http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6999 Kj Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:08:40 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6999 Wall-E deserves a best pic nomination. I'm happy that it's actually making waves and earning best picture wins in several critics groups from major cities. An animated Oscar-which is pretty much a given-along with a couple of technical awards is nice, but will not quite do this film justice that a best picture nomination will. Pixar is deviating from the typical animated fare, mainstream audiences have come to expect. While I do enjoy the flashy and more "kiddie friendly" animation from other studios, I salute Pixar for actually giving audiences credit that we are capable of animation with complexity and depth that is only reserved for live action fare. Wall-E deserves a best pic nomination. I'm happy that it's actually making waves and earning best picture wins in several critics groups from major cities. An animated Oscar-which is pretty much a given-along with a couple of technical awards is nice, but will not quite do this film justice that a best picture nomination will. Pixar is deviating from the typical animated fare, mainstream audiences have come to expect. While I do enjoy the flashy and more "kiddie friendly" animation from other studios, I salute Pixar for actually giving audiences credit that we are capable of animation with complexity and depth that is only reserved for live action fare.

]]> By: Barry http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6997 Barry Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:58:40 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6997 Wall-E was the best film of the year imho. Best picture is Best picture, they should not dismiss Wall-E because it's animated. That film is far better than many many films released not just this year, but in past years. I actually cared about the characters which suffice to say I don't normally do in many of the films I see. Wall-E was the best film of the year imho. Best picture is Best picture, they should not dismiss Wall-E because it's animated. That film is far better than many many films released not just this year, but in past years. I actually cared about the characters which suffice to say I don't normally do in many of the films I see.

]]> By: Rob http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6945 Rob Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:58:15 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6945 @<a href="#comment-6944" rel="nofollow">Rob</a>: And one other thing ... Fellowship was better than Return of the King in every way but the big CGI way. The academy does reward patterns sometimes when they get the chance too. If PIXAR is not demonstrating a patern of near perfection in filmmaking... I don't know who is. Maybe they should create a catagory for "Production Company of the decade" award or something. Wall-E is like best picture of the last 20 best pictures. Dark Knight? The last 10 or so. @Rob: And one other thing … Fellowship was better than Return of the King in every way but the big CGI way. The academy does reward patterns sometimes when they get the chance too. If PIXAR is not demonstrating a patern of near perfection in filmmaking… I don't know who is. Maybe they should create a catagory for "Production Company of the decade" award or something. Wall-E is like best picture of the last 20 best pictures. Dark Knight? The last 10 or so.

]]> By: Rob http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6944 Rob Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:52:36 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6944 "The Dark Knight" was every bit as dark, edgy, disturbing and provocotive as "The Darparted" was. If not more. Simply because it's Batman it's somehow different? Not anymore. The Departed could have been a "comic" book movie as well if someone had written a comic first. I see no difference. Still ... I believe Wall-E is better as far as the craft of filmaking goes. But here is the problem. How can a picture be best picture if it is not the sum of the other catagories as well? I'm talking acting and directing. A large amount of technical awards means little compared to the major catagories that are directly part of the "story telling" part. Thats why STAR WARS or Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs are not on the list of best pictures. A movie can't really be "best" unless its also the best in a majority of other catagories. This is what proves it is "best". This is why I feel that TDK may win over Wall-E if they go head to head. I do believe that part of the Oscars is show business and ratings oriented, so I do believe that one of these two does actually have good shot of winning it. I hope one of them does. Hollywood's ultimate goal is to make the average american want to go to the movies and pay that $10.50 a ticket. Thats how they get paid. "The Dark Knight" was every bit as dark, edgy, disturbing and provocotive as "The Darparted" was. If not more. Simply because it's Batman it's somehow different? Not anymore. The Departed could have been a "comic" book movie as well if someone had written a comic first. I see no difference.

Still … I believe Wall-E is better as far as the craft of filmaking goes. But here is the problem. How can a picture be best picture if it is not the sum of the other catagories as well? I'm talking acting and directing. A large amount of technical awards means little compared to the major catagories that are directly part of the "story telling" part. Thats why STAR WARS or Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs are not on the list of best pictures.

A movie can't really be "best" unless its also the best in a majority of other catagories. This is what proves it is "best". This is why I feel that TDK may win over Wall-E if they go head to head. I do believe that part of the Oscars is show business and ratings oriented, so I do believe that one of these two does actually have good shot of winning it. I hope one of them does. Hollywood's ultimate goal is to make the average american want to go to the movies and pay that $10.50 a ticket. Thats how they get paid.

]]> By: Travis http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6851 Travis Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:33:46 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6851 I desperately want to see Wall-E (and TDK ) to get a best picture nomination. Button, Slumdog, and Milk and then followed by those two films. The Oscar ratings will shoot through the moon from the deep bowels where it is right now as a result of last years Oscars. I've read various sources with I'm guessing varying degrees of credibility, and they all say that Wall-E does have passionate support from members of the academy (even those older ones). Whether that passion is strong that they could find it in them to put it in the Best picture table remains to be seen. It will be sad if it was left in the crib named animated films. I desperately want to see Wall-E (and TDK ) to get a best picture nomination. Button, Slumdog, and Milk and then followed by those two films. The Oscar ratings will shoot through the moon from the deep bowels where it is right now as a result of last years Oscars. I've read various sources with I'm guessing varying degrees of credibility, and they all say that Wall-E does have passionate support from members of the academy (even those older ones). Whether that passion is strong that they could find it in them to put it in the Best picture table remains to be seen. It will be sad if it was left in the crib named animated films.

]]> By: Max http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6849 Max Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:18:02 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6849 wouldn't it be funny if Wall-E misses out on Best picture but Andrew Stanton gets a directing nod? It's high time animated film directors get recognized, I could only imagine that their work is equally as hard as those directing live action films. wouldn't it be funny if Wall-E misses out on Best picture but Andrew Stanton gets a directing nod? It's high time animated film directors get recognized, I could only imagine that their work is equally as hard as those directing live action films.

]]> By: Russell http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6848 Russell Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:15:00 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6848 I will be mad as hell if Wall-E is left off from the best picture nominees. And no, the Animated oscar is not enough to placate me. Wall-E winning Song, Score, and a couple of Sound awards would be good, but that too will not be enough to quell my anger. I will be mad as hell if Wall-E is left off from the best picture nominees. And no, the Animated oscar is not enough to placate me. Wall-E winning Song, Score, and a couple of Sound awards would be good, but that too will not be enough to quell my anger.

]]> By: Dominic http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6847 Dominic Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:12:18 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6847 I loved Wall-E and at first I thought it's chances for an academy nomination is remote, but now I'm actually thinking it's really really close. The only impediment in my view, is the bias of many voters considering it's an animated film. I'm rooting for that little robot, I mean, it's resume is impressive as we speak. It has won every single animation award, top10 in AFI, Critics Choice, and other film organizations, and it actually won best picture from 3 major critics group in major cities. It would've landed a Globes nomination for best pic comedy/musical if not for their ridiculous rule prohibiting it from competing in other categories ever since they added the animated film category. It's picking up momentum which I hope carries it to a spot at the best picture table I loved Wall-E and at first I thought it's chances for an academy nomination is remote, but now I'm actually thinking it's really really close. The only impediment in my view, is the bias of many voters considering it's an animated film. I'm rooting for that little robot, I mean, it's resume is impressive as we speak. It has won every single animation award, top10 in AFI, Critics Choice, and other film organizations, and it actually won best picture from 3 major critics group in major cities. It would've landed a Globes nomination for best pic comedy/musical if not for their ridiculous rule prohibiting it from competing in other categories ever since they added the animated film category. It's picking up momentum which I hope carries it to a spot at the best picture table

]]> By: Archie http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6845 Archie Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:05:08 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6845 If Wall-E misses out this year (which is a travesty imho), I can see what will happen 3 years from now. Toy Story 3 will be nominated for best picture, it will be the Academy saying "ok, we messed up, sorry for the Wall-E snub, hope this makes up for it" If Wall-E misses out this year (which is a travesty imho), I can see what will happen 3 years from now. Toy Story 3 will be nominated for best picture, it will be the Academy saying "ok, we messed up, sorry for the Wall-E snub, hope this makes up for it"

]]> By: Archie http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6844 Archie Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:57:48 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6844 If Wall-E doesn't get a nomination for best picture then starting 2010 they should change that award to "Best LIVE ACTION picture" instead of simply calling it Best Picture If Wall-E doesn't get a nomination for best picture then starting 2010 they should change that award to "Best LIVE ACTION picture" instead of simply calling it Best Picture

]]> By: JM http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6843 JM Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:48:21 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6843 My predictions for the 5 Picture nominees (in no particular order): The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Slumdog Millionaire Milk Doubt The Dark Knight I'm sorry, I don't see "Frost/Nixon" on the list. Nor "Revolutionary Road" (though I'm eager to watch the latter). However, "The Wrestler" may take "Doubt's" spot. And "Wall-E" just might possibly slip on (in which case it'd knock out either Milk or Benjamin). But I'm predicting it'll grab the Animated Oscar with a unanimous vote ("unanimous" here meaning 90% or more). And it'll get sound, music, and writing nominations as well. My predictions for the 5 Picture nominees (in no particular order):

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Slumdog Millionaire
Milk
Doubt
The Dark Knight

I'm sorry, I don't see "Frost/Nixon" on the list. Nor "Revolutionary Road" (though I'm eager to watch the latter). However, "The Wrestler" may take "Doubt's" spot. And "Wall-E" just might possibly slip on (in which case it'd knock out either Milk or Benjamin). But I'm predicting it'll grab the Animated Oscar with a unanimous vote ("unanimous" here meaning 90% or more). And it'll get sound, music, and writing nominations as well.

]]> By: Len http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6842 Len Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:46:08 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6842 Wall-E for best picture, I'll drink to that! It and Slumdog are my top movies of the year. Wall-E for best picture, I'll drink to that! It and Slumdog are my top movies of the year.

]]> By: Amanda http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6841 Amanda Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:44:37 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6841 Wall-E was awesome. It ran the gamut of emotions which I never expected and it succeeded in emphatically driving those emotions home to an engaged viewer, which is a tremendous accomplishment given the fact that there was no Dialogue. It was a simple love story told in the most complex way that puts to shame many live action love stories I've seen. Wall-E was awesome. It ran the gamut of emotions which I never expected and it succeeded in emphatically driving those emotions home to an engaged viewer, which is a tremendous accomplishment given the fact that there was no Dialogue. It was a simple love story told in the most complex way that puts to shame many live action love stories I've seen.

]]> By: Troy http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6839 Troy Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:34:06 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6839 Wall-E is far from boring. It's only boring if you're one of those typical present day video game generation lazy moviegoer, you know, the one who wants all flash and all kaboom in their movies. The type of moviegoer that just sits there with their mouths wide open expecting to be spoonfed will definitely be lost in Wall-E. Wall-E is far from boring. It's only boring if you're one of those typical present day video game generation lazy moviegoer, you know, the one who wants all flash and all kaboom in their movies. The type of moviegoer that just sits there with their mouths wide open expecting to be spoonfed will definitely be lost in Wall-E.

]]> By: Noah http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6838 Noah Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:27:39 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6838 Why do I get the feeling that had Wall-E been a live action film, it would be a no question shoo-in for a best picture nomination. The fact that it's animated should not be held against it. If voters believe in their hearts that Revolutionary Road, Doubt, or The Wrestler etc. is more worthy of that 5th slot, then by all means they should vote them in. However, if they are going to give any of those films that 5th slot just to deny Wall-E that spot, then that is messed up. Those voters need their skulls introduced to a pencil via the "disappearing pencil trick". Why do I get the feeling that had Wall-E been a live action film, it would be a no question shoo-in for a best picture nomination. The fact that it's animated should not be held against it. If voters believe in their hearts that Revolutionary Road, Doubt, or The Wrestler etc. is more worthy of that 5th slot, then by all means they should vote them in. However, if they are going to give any of those films that 5th slot just to deny Wall-E that spot, then that is messed up. Those voters need their skulls introduced to a pencil via the "disappearing pencil trick".

]]> By: Troy http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6837 Troy Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:21:48 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6837 I'm as big a TDK fan there is, but im not one of those rabid fanboys who wear their TDK tinted glasses 24/7. Wall-E is every bit as deserving of a best pic nomination as TDK, it's a magnificent film. I'm as big a TDK fan there is, but im not one of those rabid fanboys who wear their TDK tinted glasses 24/7. Wall-E is every bit as deserving of a best pic nomination as TDK, it's a magnificent film.

]]> By: Tim http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6822 Tim Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:19:34 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6822 To bring myself back down to earth for once (I can be very unreasonable when it comes to films). I think that both Wall E and The Dark Knight are great movies. Personally I feel that the Dark Knight had more flaws than Wall E did. Even though I think Wall E is the better movie overall, I also think that neither of these films deserve Oscar nominations. Wall E has a great dystopian plot line, I fall for any movie that takes place AFTER the world has ended. The Dark Knight has more effort put into it on a physical level, the movie has some excellent camera work, Character designs are great, and there are a couple of big action sequences. But what about all the other contenders out there? There are plenty of other Oscar worthy movies that are out or coming out right now. I feel this argument is a bit biased towards what I believe is one great movie (Wall E) and one good movie (The Dark Knight). The boat ending should've been saved for the dvd, a 2 and a half hour batman movie is too much to take in. To bring myself back down to earth for once (I can be very unreasonable when it comes to films). I think that both Wall E and The Dark Knight are great movies. Personally I feel that the Dark Knight had more flaws than Wall E did. Even though I think Wall E is the better movie overall, I also think that neither of these films deserve Oscar nominations. Wall E has a great dystopian plot line, I fall for any movie that takes place AFTER the world has ended. The Dark Knight has more effort put into it on a physical level, the movie has some excellent camera work, Character designs are great, and there are a couple of big action sequences. But what about all the other contenders out there? There are plenty of other Oscar worthy movies that are out or coming out right now. I feel this argument is a bit biased towards what I believe is one great movie (Wall E) and one good movie (The Dark Knight). The boat ending should've been saved for the dvd, a 2 and a half hour batman movie is too much to take in.

]]> By: caroline http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6816 caroline Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:33:24 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6816 I hope WALL-E ends up on the Best Picture Nod. If it doesn't, I will not watch the oscars. Unlike Ratatouille and the Incredibles, WALL-E had a wonderful allegorial story. If you complained that WALL-E was preachy, that shows how ignorant you are. Good movies are also here to give lessons out, not just to entertain. We can't expect entertainment all the time. WALL-E shows reality. To not accept the movie's message, is not accepting reality. To not accept reality means that you cannot accept reality. WALL-E costed 180,000,000 to make, just as much as the Dark Knight. So many people worked so hard on it. Ben Burtt did amazing voice design, Stanton wrote his most daring script, the computer graphics were realistic (with the exception of the human characters), Newman did a beautiful themed score (WHY DID HE NOT GET A NOD FOR BEST MUSIC AT THE ANNIES?!), etc.,etc. WALL-E is not one of the bloated romance films like the great, but overrated Titanic. Titanic did nothing but circled around Jack and Rose romance. There were many things going on beside WALL-E's and EVE's romance- There was a lethargic society, a polluted Earth, and machines discovering life. And WALL-E romance with EVE affected humanity. WALL-E is certainly better than Kung Fu Panda. Kung Fu Panda only took 130 million to make. Kung Fu Panda is certainly funnier, but comedy is not enough to define a good movie. Kung Fu Panda had a excellent storyline, but it is what it is, it was only meant to make children laugh and enjoy it. Kung Fu Panda is not of the universal. Young children will love the cuteness of WALL-E, and teens and adults will love the allegorical story. Dreamworks may be funnier, but Pixar succeeds in mixed comedy with out-of-this world storylines. Storylines matter more than comedy. If you think comedy defines how good a movie is, you are one of those inconsiderate people who give no damn toward the hard effort. What use is an Annie Award to WALL-E? WALL-E is no animated movie, it's a romance made by animation. Saying that WALL-E is an animated movie is discriminating. If WALL-E doesn't show up on the Best Picture category, I will never watch the Oscars again. Mark my words. I will also boycott the Oscars if the Dark Knight doesn't show up in the Best Picture nomination. Like WALL-E it has an allegorial story. I hope WALL-E ends up on the Best Picture Nod. If it doesn't, I will not watch the oscars. Unlike Ratatouille and the Incredibles, WALL-E had a wonderful allegorial story.

If you complained that WALL-E was preachy, that shows how ignorant you are. Good movies are also here to give lessons out, not just to entertain. We can't expect entertainment all the time. WALL-E shows reality. To not accept the movie's message, is not accepting reality. To not accept reality means that you cannot accept reality.

WALL-E costed 180,000,000 to make, just as much as the Dark Knight. So many people worked so hard on it. Ben Burtt did amazing voice design, Stanton wrote his most daring script, the computer graphics were realistic (with the exception of the human characters), Newman did a beautiful themed score (WHY DID HE NOT GET A NOD FOR BEST MUSIC AT THE ANNIES?!), etc.,etc.

WALL-E is not one of the bloated romance films like the great, but overrated Titanic. Titanic did nothing but circled around Jack and Rose romance. There were many things going on beside WALL-E's and EVE's romance- There was a lethargic society, a polluted Earth, and machines discovering life. And WALL-E romance with EVE affected humanity.

WALL-E is certainly better than Kung Fu Panda. Kung Fu Panda only took 130 million to make. Kung Fu Panda is certainly funnier, but comedy is not enough to define a good movie. Kung Fu Panda had a excellent storyline, but it is what it is, it was only meant to make children laugh and enjoy it. Kung Fu Panda is not of the universal. Young children will love the cuteness of WALL-E, and teens and adults will love the allegorical story.

Dreamworks may be funnier, but Pixar succeeds in mixed comedy with out-of-this world storylines. Storylines matter more than comedy.

If you think comedy defines how good a movie is, you are one of those inconsiderate people who give no damn toward the hard effort.

What use is an Annie Award to WALL-E? WALL-E is no animated movie, it's a romance made by animation. Saying that WALL-E is an animated movie is discriminating.

If WALL-E doesn't show up on the Best Picture category, I will never watch the Oscars again. Mark my words.

I will also boycott the Oscars if the Dark Knight doesn't show up in the Best Picture nomination. Like WALL-E it has an allegorial story.

]]> By: aerinpegadrak http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6814 aerinpegadrak Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:48:06 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6814 I seem to recall an interesting piece in Entertainment Weekly chalking up the Shakespeare in Love win over Saving Private Ryan to the increasing number of Academy voters who view the films as DVD screeners rather than in theatres. They argued that Shakespeare in Love, as an intimate character piece, played better on the smaller screen, while part of Saving Private Ryan's brilliance was in its scale, which was lost in translation. I thought it was a very interesting point. Personally, I'm just glad that there are two summer movies in serious contention. Some years it seems like Academy voters don't set foot in a theatre until October, and the backloading of the other big contenders this year, even more pronounced than in years past, makes it difficult for an average moviegoer to see them all, even living in LA. I seem to recall an interesting piece in Entertainment Weekly chalking up the Shakespeare in Love win over Saving Private Ryan to the increasing number of Academy voters who view the films as DVD screeners rather than in theatres. They argued that Shakespeare in Love, as an intimate character piece, played better on the smaller screen, while part of Saving Private Ryan's brilliance was in its scale, which was lost in translation. I thought it was a very interesting point.

Personally, I'm just glad that there are two summer movies in serious contention. Some years it seems like Academy voters don't set foot in a theatre until October, and the backloading of the other big contenders this year, even more pronounced than in years past, makes it difficult for an average moviegoer to see them all, even living in LA.

]]> By: Hans http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6804 Hans Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:49:56 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6804 I call baloney on the "spreading the love" argument as to why WALL-E should be relegated to the Animated Feature category. "Spreading the love" didn't stop the academy from letting two films (genre blockbusters, nonetheless) sweep 11 oscars within a span of 6 years. Personally, I say that both WALL-E and The Dark Knight have legit chances of making it to the BP nods list, with Frost/Nixon falling out of contention. That film has not been receiving much percursor love, with the two very big exceptions, of course, being the Globes and SAG. On the preferential ballot, though, I simply don't think it'll get as many #1's as WALL-E or TDK. I call baloney on the "spreading the love" argument as to why WALL-E should be relegated to the Animated Feature category. "Spreading the love" didn't stop the academy from letting two films (genre blockbusters, nonetheless) sweep 11 oscars within a span of 6 years. Personally, I say that both WALL-E and The Dark Knight have legit chances of making it to the BP nods list, with Frost/Nixon falling out of contention. That film has not been receiving much percursor love, with the two very big exceptions, of course, being the Globes and SAG. On the preferential ballot, though, I simply don't think it'll get as many #1's as WALL-E or TDK.

]]> By: Dt Shindler http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6799 Dt Shindler Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:38:25 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6799 Given that WALL-E will obviously get the animation nomination -- and win that category -- of the two listed, Dark Knight has the best chance of getting a best picture nomination. But since I'm still cynical enough (about how things really work in Hollywood -- and since I think Jackson's win for Best Picture was a fluke, earned by incredible achievment of filming three Tolkien movies back-tobacktoback) I still think TDK wont be on the list of best picture nominees. That's me: Steadfastly downbeat. Given that WALL-E will obviously get the animation nomination — and win that category — of the two listed, Dark Knight has the best chance of getting a best picture nomination. But since I'm still cynical enough (about how things really work in Hollywood — and since I think Jackson's win for Best Picture was a fluke, earned by incredible achievment of filming three Tolkien movies back-tobacktoback) I still think TDK wont be on the list of best picture nominees. That's me: Steadfastly downbeat.

]]> By: Brad Brevet http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6793 Brad Brevet Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:50:17 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6793 @<a href="#comment-6784" rel="nofollow">Marvin</a>: I think you just hit the nail on the head as to why animated films should not be relegated to their own category. Very nice. @Marvin: I think you just hit the nail on the head as to why animated films should not be relegated to their own category. Very nice.

]]> By: Sean http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6788 Sean Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:05:11 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6788 While finding Nemo is still my favorite, Wall-E is Pixars best work. I hope it does land a nomination, the film from top to bottom makes as emphatic an argument as any film vying for awards. While finding Nemo is still my favorite, Wall-E is Pixars best work. I hope it does land a nomination, the film from top to bottom makes as emphatic an argument as any film vying for awards.

]]> By: Quazy http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6787 Quazy Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:51:32 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6787 You guys can take this to the bank. Wall-E will be a presenter at the Oscars, and Buzz and Woody will come out and introduce Wall-E as a best picture nominee. Wall-E was awesome, got me around to finally buy a blu-ray player You guys can take this to the bank. Wall-E will be a presenter at the Oscars, and Buzz and Woody will come out and introduce Wall-E as a best picture nominee. Wall-E was awesome, got me around to finally buy a blu-ray player

]]> By: Mark http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/poll-wall-e-or-the-dark-knight-which-one-has-the-best-chance-at-an-oscar-nomination#comment-6786 Mark Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:49:12 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11759#comment-6786 I adored Wall-E, this is as close as any animated film is getting to a best picture nomination in recent memory and I hope it pulls if off. It helps that it is being recognized by critics and other film bodies. Here's hoping I wake up that morning with the headline across TV and the net, "for only the 2nd time in Oscar History, an animated movie lands a best picture nom" I adored Wall-E, this is as close as any animated film is getting to a best picture nomination in recent memory and I hope it pulls if off. It helps that it is being recognized by critics and other film bodies. Here's hoping I wake up that morning with the headline across TV and the net, "for only the 2nd time in Oscar History, an animated movie lands a best picture nom"

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