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Online Film Criticism: The Impossible Task of Satisfying Everyone

What a whirlwind the last week has been...

Since switching the comment system from one where you need to register to comment to the more traditional and online friendly version I use now there has not only been a VAST increase in comments, but also an increase in mudslinging in my direction. For the most part it's not that much of a problem. I know taste in film differs for everyone, even folks who tend to agree on most every film will always have those films that separate them. It's the wonder of the art form and it's what makes sites like RopeofSilicon.com and all the other movie websites you visit possible. Arguing film has gone on for ages and it will continue to go on long after we're all gone. That said, the mudslinging and overly negative comments have me baffled. They are comments without anything to add to the argument and simply a means to spew vitriol. Why has the Internet spawned so much hatred?

I have had the same arguments posed in so many of my editorials and reviews with the myriad of people I discuss movies with in real conversation and I have not once been called a pussy, or an idiot, or any of the other names so frequently used when someone disagrees with an opinion of mine. The anonymity of the Internet has allowed for people to attack without consequence. As a result I am left with the option of ignoring the comment or deleting it as replying would be of little use, since my reply would either be met with the same ignorance or never received as so often many people leave hateful comments only to never return.

A while back I asked a couple of local Seattle publicists as well as national studio publicists a few questions regarding the state of online movie reporting and where they got the majority of their information. When asked whether or not online movie websites have hurt or helped the world of movies one publicist told me, "I think they have definitely lowered the standards of movie reporting as well as news because anyone can have a site and a blog." That's definitely true, look at me for example. I didn't go to film school and while I have a print/broadcast journalism degree I still have plenty to learn about movies.

Another publicist took a completely different stance telling me, "I think they have helped. I think the internet is a great forum for fans to share info and enthusiasm, as well as disappointment. I think the online communities are a great outlet for fans to share their movie-going experiences." Interesting the distance between the two answers eh?

How about this evaluation of movie sites, "Majority of sites are not impressive. Majority of sites are gossip columns not true movie critiques and reporting." The person that told me this also said they get the majority of their movie related news from the newspaper and when asked what kind of an impact they believed movie sites had on the film industry they said, "I don't think they have any impact."

So here's the battle I face. On one end I have people that would much rather take a hatchet to my skull because I didn't love a movie as much as them and on the other end I fight a battle of making sure I remain credible under the watchful eyes of the publicists. Of course, my only request of publicists – for the most part – is tey tell me when they are screening movies and that's about it, but nonetheless I don't want to be looked at in comparison to a gossip column. Yikes!

I have written an article along these lines a number of times, but never published it because it never quite felt right, but a comment on my Gran Torino review showed me there are people that understand it is possible to disagree on movies and yet share a common bond in the desire to discuss them. The comment from Allan went as follows:

Brad:
I have enjoyed visiting your website during the past few weeks. I must say, however, that I disagree with most of your top 10 picks from 2003 through to 2008. It seems we only agree on about 2 or 3 films each year.

I also disagree with your C+ rating for Gran Torino. While not at the level of Mystic River, Million Dollar Baby, or Letters from Iwo Jima, Gran Torino is a good flick with a fine performance by Clint Eastwood. Like Roger Ebert, and several other top critics, I would rate it a little shy of four stars. For a letter grade, I would give it a B+.

Critics and movie lovers are all entitled to their opinions, and I will continue to visit your site regularly to read your reviews.

Allan agrees with me only 20-30% of the time and disagreed with my opinion of Gran Torino. Yet, he didn't feel the need to call me names and most importantly says, "Critics and movie lovers are all entitled to their opinions." The question I run into is in wondering where I draw the line.

Just yesterday, on my list of Top Ten Movies someone commented saying The Dark Knight should have been my number one film of 2008 because it was better than Vicky Cristina Barcelona, although they did add the one good thing about VCB was that "Penelope Cruz and Scarlett Johansson [were] HOT" in the movie. Is this a comment I should just delete outright or is this person's opinion adding to the conversation?

I like to have fun and rattle a few cages here and there – my recent Street Fighter vs. Dragonball article is a perfect example – but one thing I will never do is assume everyone should have the same opinion as mine. I will go on giving my opinion and more importantly asking for you to add yours. Despite some of the publicist quotes above, I personally think online movie sites are the future of film criticism and over the past couple of months I have enjoyed the increase in comments and hope 2009 continues to bring in more diverse opinions. After all, in my experience one's opinion on movies is never final.


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Well said. You're lucky by the way, I've had at least one person call me stupid in an open conversation. I don't know that its necassarily anonymity or the internet. And I'd appereciate it if my comments aren't taken personally. – I've left some on your Gran Torino review. ;) That's just generally how I talk to people, it's not an attack on you personally. If I think someone didn't understand something, or is being too uptight. I like to point it out. I loosen up when I go to the movies, the last film that made me uncomfortable was American History X (because of the language and tone) it was a really savage kind of movie. But it paid off in the end. I didn't(/don't) think Gran Torino was trying to be that kind of movie. Anyway, keep doing what you're doing. And hey, Dark Knight's my number one this year, but I haven't seen them all. especially Vicky Christina Barcelona.

- Brandon
( December 31st, 2008 | 4:32 am )
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As someone who would like to think of himself as a person with something to say in the field of film criticism, but only a silly little Blogspot page with no commenters to show for it (oh, and one semester of a Film degree – I'm a uni student), I think you've outlined one of the big problems regarding online film criticism today – that it's too often seen as anyone's game and only idiots get involved. I'll admit, I occasionally resort to petty mockery, but only ever to make a point I deem pertinent and not diminished by the deprecating words. I see you do, occasionally, too, but for the same reasons, as you admit (your latest, rather humourous, blog on fanboys boycotting Watchmen does that quite well). But "your a f***er u pussy OLOLOLOL u suk a thousand diks and Indy 4 is da WORST FILM EVAR" isn't the same, and is never tolerable.

- Adam
( December 31st, 2008 | 5:43 am )
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Another great one Brad

- Aly
( December 31st, 2008 | 6:58 am )
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Nice artilce man. Oh, I totally disagree with your opinion on Hellboy 2.

- adu
( December 31st, 2008 | 10:03 am )
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This has been the best site I have gone too for my film and Oscar information, so thank you.

- Jimmy
( December 31st, 2008 | 12:43 pm )
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Anonymity empowers people to say inappropriate things.

I am sorry for the abuse. I have greatly enjoyed your site as a movie enthusiast. Aside from what I believe is unneccessary profanity in your articles/reviews, they are very thogutful and insightful. While I loved Hellboy II, for example (I happened to like the original better, unlike most critics), I completely understood your complaint.

Keep up the good work. Watch the language and all will be good.

- JB
( December 31st, 2008 | 8:51 pm )
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In my opinion this is the best movie website i've ever visited, the pages are user friendly and the informations are accurate and up-to-date.
I put this website as my homepage and visit it everyday through my cell. I know more about the latest updates than my fellow movie freaks, thanks to this website.
Keep it up brad.

- Pufferbuzz
( December 31st, 2008 | 11:21 pm )
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The main thing about the world wide web is that it IS world wide. People with all kinds of backgrounds read a site and OF COURSE they will disagree… Would you really like it if for example the comments to your top 10 of best and worst films of 2008 consisted of this: "Oh yes i TOTALLY agree with you Brad, VCB is the best film of the year and Be Kind, Rewind is deffo one of the worst" over and over and over again? I think you'd get bored and take the site off within 1 month… The beauty of discussion is that it opens new point of views to you and even if that doesn't mean you will change your opinion, it certainly broadens your horizon. I've only come to this site for a week or so and think this actually might be one reason why you run it in the first place – open up discussion and listen to all the different opinions.
As for the mudslinging people – IGNORE them… I dont mean just you, we all should. They only insult in order to get a reaction and if they dont they get bored and move on.

- mellix
( January 1st, 2009 | 7:50 am )
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I was once told that I need to die because I don't like the Lord of the Rings trilogy, in real life. That gave me a laugh.

I have never understood the reason to attack someone because they don't share the same view as you. There are many things you write Brad that I don't agree on but who cares. As long as it is a well written and well argumented opinion or review I see no reason to attack the writer. Online film sites does face an uphill battle but there are difference between sites. The reason I started to read this site was because A) it wasn't reporting every stupid gossip news that comes out daily and because of Brad and David and their articles. While many times I disagree it doesn't matter since it still well written pieces, and B) because the comment sections are much more civil and intelligent then the usual sites'. I personaly think that ROP should go back to registeres user system for the comment section but it's not a big deal.

- flerk
( January 1st, 2009 | 10:39 am )
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@mellix: If you thought I was insinuating I wanted everyone to think like me you either didn't a) read the whole article, b) understand what was written or c) I wasn't clear in what I wrote.

As for "ignoring" the mudslingers that is pretty much impossible since I have to deal with it every day and I think history has proven ignoring a problem does not necessarily make it go away. Of course, deleting it here is fine, but it is a growing trend around the web and one of the reasons every single movie news website gets lumped into one group.

- Brad Brevet (Post Author)
( January 1st, 2009 | 2:18 pm )
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I had some Chinese food last night and my fortune cookie told me: "You can't please everyone. Please yourself".

- Shane
( January 2nd, 2009 | 9:56 am )
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