Comments on: Offering the 'Star Trek' Backlash Backlash

By: Venomous Soul

Venomous Soul — Wed, 20 May 2009 02:39:17 +0000

Yes Please quit complaining!
1.) an alternate reality does not mean the old stuff is gone it can still happen only a little differently, except of course some Vulcan related things but who cares, I don't

complaining about Vulcan being gone is like someone blowing up congress & we all get mad about it. i know i wouldn't

2.) This is Star Trek the Original series was fun! this movie was fun! the original series had comedy so did this! puffy hands or not this movie rocked and you all know it!

By: The Jackal

The Jackal — Thu, 14 May 2009 08:13:45 +0000

I've always thought that the Star Trek series was never better than when Kirk, Spock, Bones, Uhura, Scotty, Chekhov, & Sulu were blasting around the cosmos; "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" being the greatest height that the franchise had ever achieved, and continueing admirably through III, IV & VI. This "WAS" Star Trek at its heart, its core. This dynamic has been faithfully recreated by J.J. Abrams and the folks over at Paramount.

Instead of giving us more Trek Trash, such as "Enterprise," fan films, & Nemesis, the world has a new and exciting vision of the future. Brilliant young actors, an exciting story and lets face it, the best special effects the franchise has ever seen, have ensured a great future for Trek.

By: Dr.Vern

Dr.Vern — Thu, 14 May 2009 03:09:15 +0000

@marsh:

Totally agree…The Franchise was D E A D—You nitpicking fans assured that it would be dead—You Killed Enterprise and Nemesis–the last hopes for the original 40 year run–You ruined it—Paramount was forced to Reboot or Mothball–franchise had too much potential value to mothball so we got the Reboot—So ask yourself this….did they reboot with loving care to treat the long time fans (Like Me) or did they give they series the same treatment that Battlestar Gallactica got—-hmm. Think about that….BSG Rebooted it's franchise and gave the Original BSG fans the finger…and it was freaking GREAT–I'm just saying that Kirk could have been a woman, or Spock a Emotionally conflicted Vulcan, or Uhura could have been a Puerto Rican Man, or Scotty an Asian Female, They could have brought Khan back as a Serial Killer, –Many things could have happened, but they didn't—JJ Abrams gave us our beloved characters–Intact and Well Cast—and used a tried-and-true Trek Vehicle–Alternate Reality- To explain everything. Rodenberry's Son and Everyone who's ever worked on Star Trek(Practically) has come out in support of the Reboot and Praise for the Film—What The Hell else do you want. —one more thing–to the fans who say "very Convienient that all these crew members happened to end up in their eventual roles on Enterprise–Okay—Scotty was on an Ice World that Kirk just happened to land on—okay—STOP—I prefer to think that this was the way the director chose to show us that the crew was destined to be together—regardless of the timeline….bring on the sequel

By: IV

IV — Wed, 13 May 2009 20:46:17 +0000

One of the main features of Star Trek was that it blended with every other product under its name. It started out very vague and as the franchise progressed, each new thing revealed something about the unknown. The whole "alternate universe" thing was a easy step around that. They had no need to look to the other episodes at all. They talk about Star Trek needing a revamp, and I agree with that. The effects and costumes and things were great…and who can really say that one design is ahead of another? But they didn't revamp it, they undid it. They tossed away all the old Star Trek and replaced it with something entirely new, and tethered it to the "fans" by bringing in the old characters in a a non-stop cameo bonanza. Every 10 minutes they were breaking out 5 seconds of something old school to keep real fans from walking out. Sure worked for me, I stayed. I even liked the movie, just would have liked it more if it didn't pretend to be something it isn't. Star Trek has always been one of those series that fan's examine closely, and they missed that. Why? Because they've prolly never even seen the old school episodes. This movie was like taking X-Men, making it a romantic comedy where everyone gets along and no one decided to use powers and saying "Oh, it's an alternative timeline. But there's Prof. X making out with Scott. Alternative timeline."

By: marsh

marsh — Tue, 12 May 2009 18:09:03 +0000

Oh all the nitpickers out there haha……I have been a Trek fan since the early 90s in that time I completely assimilated the Trek world. Ive seen all the series every episode more than once and god only knows how many times ive seen all the movies even the trash ones like Star Trek 5 and of course Nemesis and Insurrection, so I'd like to think I know a little bit about what I'm talking about. Bottom line is until this our show was dead the whole Star Trek universe was going no where. We can't sit here and nit pick every little detail of this new movie and not be excited that Star Trek breathes again. The most important part of the story is the characters and their interactions and I loved the way everyone worked with the new movie harkened back to the old days. The Spock and Uhura deal can easily be explained, at first I didnt agree with this but now I understand. Sarek a full vulcan spoke the line in the movie when asked why he was with a human woman and simply put he loved her an emotion none the less. Even in the real Star Trek universe Sarek was more inclined to take a human wife than a vulcan ever think of that. Like old Spock stated hes emotional compromised after all the events that have occurred. The fact that the ship and the uniforms don't look exactly like they did in the 60's……..haha I mean c'mon people we don't need to take it so literal again it's a character story and our characters of Kirk and Spock will now live on thanks to this movie telling new stories to new generations and ensuring Star Trek immortality.

By: Brad Brevet

Brad Brevet — Tue, 12 May 2009 17:23:16 +0000

@raxin@mailinator.com: I don't want to get into a silly Star Trek argument, but Spock is half-human/half-Vulcan, something that explains his emotional attachment. It all makes sense and there is no debate to be had on the Spock/Uhura relationship.

By: raxin@mailinator.com

raxin@mailinator.com — Tue, 12 May 2009 16:05:03 +0000

From what we've been taught about Spock and Uhura, those two would never have a regular thing going. Vulcans only mate once every seven years. Spock is half human but his mating urges follow the seven-year Vulcan cycle and take him over completely. Spock would see no logical purpose in pressing lips in the interim. Even if the events in this movie take place in an alternate universe, the split point between the two universes would have to have been tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years earlier to explain the change in Vulcan biology, which would make the idea of the same people appearing in both universes ludicrous. Raxin

By: Jadium

Jadium — Tue, 12 May 2009 13:50:27 +0000

Captain's Log star date 5/5/09 = I thought the movie was awesome, I grew up watching Star Trek with my father and I thought this was a good representation of the old crew. If anything was a little different it was simply for entertainment purposes and that is ok by me. I walked out of the theater saying, "that was a good movie". So everyone really needs to enjoy life and stop picking at the little things.

By: oldskool138

oldskool138 — Tue, 12 May 2009 11:53:14 +0000

I feel sorry for you, Marco. I really do. For the rest of your life you're not going to see another Paramount movie? Yeah…you're like those people in 2004 who vowed to move to Canada when George Bush got elected for a second term.

By: Marco

Marco — Tue, 12 May 2009 06:53:45 +0000

It's ok but won't have a long life after this. Although the alternate reality idea will bring in new fans it also alienates long term fans basically telling them STFU your universe is dead! Good luck with Airhead Trek which is what this was. It's like Vin Diesel/90210 & Star Trek in space! Enjoy! I'm done with Paramount.. they should have sold the Star Trek license and started a new sci-fi series instead of raping an old one. There really is no more originality in Hollywood anymore.
This movie was 2 out of 5 stars mostly for effects

By: adu

adu — Tue, 12 May 2009 04:16:03 +0000

Top notch movie that won a fan who thought that Star Trek was boring and for 'old farts'….ME!

By: bryce

bryce — Tue, 12 May 2009 01:38:40 +0000

Great article. I agree with you about the mindless comments about the film while those same ppl enjoyed the film. Star Trek was an amazing movie

By: William

William — Tue, 12 May 2009 01:37:34 +0000

@Jeffrey: Alternate Reality lol.

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Tue, 12 May 2009 00:54:38 +0000

The movie “Star Trek” is utter bad! It is out of orbit for TV series of Star Trek: Original Series. The movie had confusing and contradictory events, scenes, and crews’ relationships. For example, James Kirk’s father was killed in the battle, James’s birth in space, not in Iowa, Spock’s human mother was killed, Vulcan’s home planet was destroyed, the entirely different scenes of bridge, hallways and engineering section in USS Enterprise, characteristic flaws among crew members: Uhura’s romantic relationship with Mr. Spock, too sentimental behavior for Mr. Spock, too provocative and egotistic behavior for James Kirk. There was none of Nurse Chapel and blonde-haired Yeoman in this movie! Kirk's immature heroic epic swiftly promoted his rank to be the Captain of the ship – irrational! This movie is incompatibility to harmonize to Star Trek: Original Series because of these contradictory and baffling results to Star Trek: Original Series. We will see the secret reveal of Tuvok who was a black Vulcan crew member of Voyager and he was born under his parents of Uhura and Mr. Spock!

By: NP

NP — Tue, 12 May 2009 00:49:05 +0000

Having read about it before going to the cinema, I was a little sceptical, but went in with an open mind; absolutely loved the film from start to fniish. The alternate reality aspect was a brilliant way of allowing a reboot that would not alienate hardcore fans as it does not erase all we have learned about Star Trek over the past 40 years. Nimoy's presence served to make it 'okay' for trekkies to like the film and most complaints can be dealt with by the 'alternate reality' theory or the comic (Star Trek: Countdown). My only lingering complaint is that the Nokia product placement was aggravating (especially the annoying Nokia ringtone) and did severely cheapen a few moments of the otherwise fantastic and well-cast movie.

By: Forrest

Forrest — Tue, 12 May 2009 00:31:35 +0000

"What do I care … if that isn’t “what a black hole is, or how it behaves” as Roger Ebert complains."

At the end of that road lies cavemen flying 2,000 year old Harriers.