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New York Times: '3-D is in danger of becoming Hollywood's latest flub'

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James Cameron on the set of Avatar

The "New York Times" has up a new piece headlined "Hollywood Finds Headaches in Its Big Bet on 3-D" and it comes equipped with a snazzy new pic (right) of James Cameron on the set of his big budget 3-D flick Avatar due out next December. The article talks about how studio big wigs such as DreamWorks exec Jeffrey Katzenberg and Pixar's John Lasseter "think the multiplex masses will soon demand that all movies be shown in newly available digital 3-D." According to the article there are over 30 3-D pictures on the way, but it points out things may not be looking so good for the big move to an age-old idea as analysts are starting to warn that all of that product could find itself sitting on a loading dock with no place to go.

Studios have moved forward with the idea of mass market 3-D releases without making sure theaters would be able to handle such an idea. The problem, of course, is that only about 1,300 of North America’s 40,000 or so movie screens support digital 3-D including 250 IMAX theaters. The piece by Brooks Barnes points out that an upgrade costs about $100,000 per screen and how overseas theaters, which make up about 70% of a film's overall gross, only have a few hundred theaters equipped for 3-D.

So, how does a film such as Avatar or DreamWorks Animation's Monsters vs. Aliens, an all 3-D effort which opens in March, find enough theaters to screen their films?

Let's look solely at Monsters vs. Aliens in comparison to DreamWorks' 2008 release Kung Fu Panda. Kung Fu Panda was released in 4,136 theaters at its widest, if MvA wanted to go all 3-D it will only have, at a maximum, about 1,300 theaters at its disposal. DreamWorks is planning on releasing MvA in a 2-D version as well, but is that really moving the format forward? Peter at SlashFilm points out to me a conversation he had with Jeffrey Katzenberg at DreamWorks and how MvA is hoping for approximately 2,500 theaters by release. You can get more on that here.

The "Times" article says a 3-D picture adds about $15 million to the production cost, but that can be made up with "premium ticket pricing". Yeah, they intend to pass the cost on to the customer so you can see things point out of the screen at you. Great, just what you wanted right? Higher movie ticket prices. Maybe after that they can throw popcorn at you for an additional $5 for a full 3-D effort.

Of course the idea behind this new wave of 3-D films is that new technology allows the film to be made in 3-D from the ground up providing a more immersive experience and not just the gimmicky trickery of things flying out of the screen at the audience. I believe this is the whole idea behind Cameron's Avatar, a $200 million effort from 20th Century Fox that has a huge wave of expectation behind it.

The article over at the "New York Times" has plenty more to offer in terms of numbers as well as details on how a $1 billion effort to convert upwards of 15,000 screens fell through as the economy went under. Check the full thing out right here.

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They're trying to push something expensive in bad times.
The numbers mentioned make it very clear, only 1300 3D cinema's out of 40000 in North America alone.

Katzenberg and Lasseter are wrong. There won't a demand big enough to force theatres to upgrade their place.
They don't have the cash for it and neither does the public for the more expensive tickets.

Personally I'd allso have to travel quite a bit to get to a 3D cinema and I just can't be bothered.
No matter how good Avatar might be, 200 million on what is basically just a few theatres worldwide is just a bad gamble.

And what about the allso very important income of DVD sales? Will they try and force us to sit on our sofa's with those silly carboard glasses on?

- rattler76
( January 12th, 2009 | 6:02 am )
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3D is a gimmick. Until it is used as an integral part of a movie's story, it'll never become more than that.

There are many gimmicks in filmmaking. There's special effects. There's CGI effects. There's gimmicky plot twists. There's interesting cameos. All of those are gimmicks. And yet none of them will make money for a film if they don't improve the film in some significant way. They CAN improve the film, though; special effects and CGI effects can heighten the excitement and/or artistry of a story. A plot twist can make the entire film worth watching (or rewatching). And a cameo can make the film that more fun to watch. But 3D… well, it doesn't really add to the viewing experience. And what is does add is taken away by the higher ticket prices. If a studio spends more on the other gimmickry they add into a film, it doesn't cost us any more. But with 3D, it means more money for a novelty that wears off extremely effing quickly. And those 3D glasses that turn everything blue and red are really effing annoying. There hasn't been any 3D film so far that I wouldn't rather see in 2D format.

- JM
( January 12th, 2009 | 9:58 am )
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I have seen three 3-D movies. One was just added after the fact, (Nightmare Before Christmas) and another did not add much (Bolt), and not really worth the extra $3 bucks. But a movie like "Meet the Robinsons" I though made a big difference.

And off-subject, how about the next "big thing". I went to KC AMC "Fork and Screen" over the weekend, it's basically an "Applebee's" during the movie. That might be a money maker. Basically, if you are going out to a eat before or after a show, saves time and about the same amount of money. I would not recommend it for a drama or some action movie, but it's a comedy or in my case a kid's flick, it's fun.

- Steve
( January 12th, 2009 | 1:36 pm )
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Hey BRAD: It'll be interesting to see how they handle that effort here in Australia. When I first arrived, I was still in shock over the $15-18 ticket costs per movie goer ($10 on discount days, which is either tuesday or sunday, depending on the movie theater — it was $8 or $9, but that jus went up a buck). It costs far too much already to go to the movies in OZ (let alone, buy a new DVD or book — both of which are equally outrageous) because the various industries are _already_ putting the screws to consumers! The cost of a 3-D movie ticket should _really_ drive them away in droves.

- Dt Shindler
( January 12th, 2009 | 2:21 pm )
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i hate 3-D! plus alot of theatres dont show movies in digital yet..analog is better anyways, but on 3-D movies there is also a $3 surcharge to see the movie and people now a days dont have the extra money to spend what with there fetish for popcorn with their movies! they should stick to 2-D, i dont have a problem with digital but i love analog so, i dont know why everything has to change, the movies are amazing how they are!

- atl roller
( January 12th, 2009 | 9:03 pm )
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@JM: 3D should be able to add a level of immersion. Currently, the opposite occurs. The gimmick of an object going to and from the audience does nothing but take me out of the story, as if I'm supposed to put my movie watching on hold to appreciate the technology.

@atl roller: I disagree. Analog has it's charm but digital is a visual treat. DP's have to step up their game is all.

- GregM
( January 13th, 2009 | 6:35 am )
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Lawl atl roller… I dunno about you but my family always taught me to not buy food… EVER at a movie theater. The couple of times I do do it though, it's not popcorn… its either a hotdog, candy or an ICEE (usually the latter). My dad always snuck in bag popcorn… but I hate popcorn (I can only stand eating like maybe 10 pieces then my mouth gets unappealingly dry, I need a drink and I have corn shell painfully stuck between my molar and gum).

I'm willing to forgo popcorn money to see 3D… (haha, esp. as I hate popcorn)… I mean… 3 bucks for something that costs them 20 cents to make. Bulls*it.

JC, yah'd better deliver!

- Tina
( March 25th, 2009 | 7:12 pm )
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