Comments on: Manohla Dargis' Female Rant is Worthless Without Suggestions http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/manohla_dargis_female_rant_is_worthless_without_suggestions The best and latest movie news, reviews, features and editorials - updated daily Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:39:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: bkjoe http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/manohla_dargis_female_rant_is_worthless_without_suggestions#comment-3296 bkjoe Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:48:15 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/news/?p=9396#comment-3296 the rant is worthless because it doesn't consider boxoffice and performance of the stars mentioned. it doesn't matter if you do art flicks to gain credibility if you cannot get butts in the seats to justify a hundred million dollar film and its accompanying salary. Hollywood isn't sexist, its just about the money. women superhero films have been tried, remember supergirl? i think we want to forget that! sheena? gag... catwoman? cripes.. elektra? aeon flux? well you see the trend... and women directing such films? remember aeon flux? yes helmed by a woman. david poland does a better job tearing into this puff piece. http://www.thehotbutton.com/today/hot.button/index.html new york times needs higher standards for journalism. the rant is worthless because it doesn't consider boxoffice and performance of the stars mentioned. it doesn't matter if you do art flicks to gain credibility if you cannot get butts in the seats to justify a hundred million dollar film and its accompanying salary. Hollywood isn't sexist, its just about the money. women superhero films have been tried, remember supergirl? i think we want to forget that! sheena? gag… catwoman? cripes.. elektra? aeon flux? well you see the trend…

and women directing such films? remember aeon flux? yes helmed by a woman.

david poland does a better job tearing into this puff piece. http://www.thehotbutton.com/today/hot.button/index.html new york times needs higher standards for journalism.

]]> By: BeautifulM http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/manohla_dargis_female_rant_is_worthless_without_suggestions#comment-1840 BeautifulM Mon, 05 May 2008 18:06:09 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/news/?p=9396#comment-1840 To answer your question Brad, Yes, I do think that Hollywood is skewed towards men, to a certain extent, but I kind of think it is more of the “this is what women like” and “this is what men like” than anything. Movies that are geared towards women are mostly romantic comedies (and I HATE romantic comedies). Big blockbusters are supposedly for men, but I know plenty of women, including myself, who loves these types of movies. I think that if Big Blockbusters had a woman superhero (whatever happened to Wonderwoman?) or more great female villians in Blockbusters, then the movie industry would be a bit better in terms of female roles. That’s really the only thing I can think of, beside the usual: Make more lead female roles in movies that can be geared towards anyone regardless of gender. I do agree with DavidFrank, she is dismissing the decent female roles that exist. Like Sex and the City ( never watched the show), a lot of women see this as a positive show for women. I also think that this is mainly a problem in comedies and big budget movies. As far as dramas or the serious movies, I think the roles for women are definitely better, but still limited. Now since I am a woman of color, I wish there were more decent roles for women of color, besides the usual, wife/mother, Tyler Perry(ugh) and or sexy chick. A great solution for this would be novels. There are PLENTY of movies based on novels and there are plenty of NOVELS that have minority women as main characters ( I know Memoirs of a Geisha was a bad movie, but great book). That would be a great start. To answer your question Brad,

Yes, I do think that Hollywood is skewed towards men, to a certain extent, but I kind of think it is more of the “this is what women like” and “this is what men like” than anything. Movies that are geared towards women are mostly romantic comedies (and I HATE romantic comedies). Big blockbusters are supposedly for men, but I know plenty of women, including myself, who loves these types of movies. I think that if Big Blockbusters had a woman superhero (whatever happened to Wonderwoman?) or more great female villians in Blockbusters, then the movie industry would be a bit better in terms of female roles. That’s really the only thing I can think of, beside the usual: Make more lead female roles in movies that can be geared towards anyone regardless of gender. I do agree with DavidFrank, she is dismissing the decent female roles that exist. Like Sex and the City ( never watched the show), a lot of women see this as a positive show for women. I also think that this is mainly a problem in comedies and big budget movies. As far as dramas or the serious movies, I think the roles for women are definitely better, but still limited.

Now since I am a woman of color, I wish there were more decent roles for women of color, besides the usual, wife/mother, Tyler Perry(ugh) and or sexy chick. A great solution for this would be novels. There are PLENTY of movies based on novels and there are plenty of NOVELS that have minority women as main characters ( I know Memoirs of a Geisha was a bad movie, but great book). That would be a great start.

]]> By: davidfrank http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/manohla_dargis_female_rant_is_worthless_without_suggestions#comment-1833 davidfrank Mon, 05 May 2008 12:33:52 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/news/?p=9396#comment-1833 She casts Wanted aside too despite that the whole marketing campaign has been geared around Jolie, which is counter to part of her argument. And while Sex and the City seems like the most pointless show-to-movie film ever created, her diminishing of it is laughable. Well that film is completely the antithesis of my argument, I guess I better downplay it. Her argument is sloppy and poorly presented. Also she doesn't even mention Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2, which again is contrary to whatever point she's trying to make I don't deny that there are not as many good roles out there for woman. But that's an argument that can be well formed and presented. After reading this, I think she touches on it...but that's definitely not her focus. I don't know. She's all of the map here. She casts Wanted aside too despite that the whole marketing campaign has been geared around Jolie, which is counter to part of her argument. And while Sex and the City seems like the most pointless show-to-movie film ever created, her diminishing of it is laughable. Well that film is completely the antithesis of my argument, I guess I better downplay it. Her argument is sloppy and poorly presented. Also she doesn't even mention Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2, which again is contrary to whatever point she's trying to make

I don't deny that there are not as many good roles out there for woman. But that's an argument that can be well formed and presented. After reading this, I think she touches on it…but that's definitely not her focus. I don't know. She's all of the map here.

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