Comments on: 2008 Continues to 'Stand Still' for 20th Century Fox – Will 2009 be Any Better? http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better The best and latest movie news, reviews, features and editorials - updated daily Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:32:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Penske Ford http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6500 Penske Ford Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:16:14 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6500 Tom Rothman can go **** himself. The only worthy movies that Fox has released over the past 6 years have beenL X2 Death Sentence Street Kings Walk The Line Fire Tom Rothman. He ruined Live Free or Die Hard along with X-Men The Last Stand and Max Payne. Tom Rothman can go **** himself.

The only worthy movies that Fox has released over the past 6 years have beenL

X2
Death Sentence
Street Kings
Walk The Line

Fire Tom Rothman. He ruined Live Free or Die Hard along with X-Men The Last Stand and Max Payne.

]]> By: elessar http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6471 elessar Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:21:45 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6471 Excellent points, Brad. Out of all of Fox's upcoming releases, only three interest me: Avatar, Fantastic Mr Fox, and Wolverine. My list of good Fox films is even narrower than yours: Master and Commander Walk The Line Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut) X2 Revenge of Sith (maybe) Borat That's the extent of Fox's quality films since 2003. In short, they haven't made a good film in two years. Excellent points, Brad. Out of all of Fox's upcoming releases, only three interest me: Avatar, Fantastic Mr Fox, and Wolverine.

My list of good Fox films is even narrower than yours:

Master and Commander
Walk The Line
Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut)
X2
Revenge of Sith (maybe)
Borat

That's the extent of Fox's quality films since 2003. In short, they haven't made a good film in two years.

]]> By: JD92 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6386 JD92 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:53:10 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6386 I really hate how fox gets a decent number of good projects each year then find a way to F*** them up almost everytime. I pray that they dont screw up wolverine tho, cuz it looks very good. I really hate how fox gets a decent number of good projects each year then find a way to F*** them up almost everytime. I pray that they dont screw up wolverine tho, cuz it looks very good.

]]> By: Brad Brevet http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6233 Brad Brevet Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:10:50 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6233 @<a href="#comment-6191" rel="nofollow">Jeff</a>, <a href="#comment-6173" rel="nofollow">MIKE</a>, <a href="#comment-6172" rel="nofollow">Jonhy Briants</a>, <a href="#comment-6145" rel="nofollow">Mikey</a> and <a href="#comment-6230" rel="nofollow">BOBSAGAT</a>: Ugh, this is <b>NOT</b> an article about Dragonball in any way shape or form outside of a few measly words, and on top of that, if it were, all of you are arguing how great it will do overseas. This entire article is a discussion of domestic box-office gross. <b>Please, stay on topic. Dragonball specific comments will be moderated beyond this comment.</b> I am sure there is a Dragonball forum for such discussions and I am sure there will be future Dragonball related posts, this is not one of them. @Jeff, MIKE, Jonhy Briants, Mikey and BOBSAGAT: Ugh, this is NOT an article about Dragonball in any way shape or form outside of a few measly words, and on top of that, if it were, all of you are arguing how great it will do overseas. This entire article is a discussion of domestic box-office gross.

Please, stay on topic. Dragonball specific comments will be moderated beyond this comment.

I am sure there is a Dragonball forum for such discussions and I am sure there will be future Dragonball related posts, this is not one of them.

]]> By: BOBSAGAT http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6230 BOBSAGAT Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:21:37 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6230 Dragonball is gonna make alot of money, maybe not in its U.S. release but worldwide it will do fantastic, South America is crazy for it as is Japan. Dragonball fans have been waiting for a movie so long, with all those talks before and rumors through the years, fans will see it no matter how bad it is. Also like to point out Fox is making a video game based off flick and action figures, they wouldnt be investing so much unless they thought it was gonna be a success. I have faith in the movie to a certain degree, but as for money I have no doubt it will make alot. Especially worldwide, I mean have you seen how secretive they've been about and how eager the world is to catch even a glimpse if the film, ppl were literally driving by and breaking into the set to take cell phone snap shots of scenerary and shit, trust me, Dragonball will sell. Dragonball is gonna make alot of money, maybe not in its U.S. release but worldwide it will do fantastic, South America is crazy for it as is Japan. Dragonball fans have been waiting for a movie so long, with all those talks before and rumors through the years, fans will see it no matter how bad it is.

Also like to point out Fox is making a video game based off flick and action figures, they wouldnt be investing so much unless they thought it was gonna be a success. I have faith in the movie to a certain degree, but as for money I have no doubt it will make alot. Especially worldwide, I mean have you seen how secretive they've been about and how eager the world is to catch even a glimpse if the film, ppl were literally driving by and breaking into the set to take cell phone snap shots of scenerary and shit, trust me, Dragonball will sell.

]]> By: aerinpegadrak http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6220 aerinpegadrak Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:59:08 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6220 It may be a hugely popular anime series, but the only buzz out there for the movie is negative. At least Twilight fans were excited about their movie; everyone thinks Dragonball looks like shit. It may become the most pirated movie ever, perhaps, but I don't think many people are going to bother seeing it in theatres. It may be a hugely popular anime series, but the only buzz out there for the movie is negative. At least Twilight fans were excited about their movie; everyone thinks Dragonball looks like shit. It may become the most pirated movie ever, perhaps, but I don't think many people are going to bother seeing it in theatres.

]]> By: Jonhy Briants http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6172 Jonhy Briants Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:06:27 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6172 No, you are wrong. Trust me, Dragon Ball will make a lot of money, considering it is the most watched anime ever. In USA, it is not very known, but if you go to Japan, Europe or South America you will see the real thing. Dragon Ball will make probably the same succes than Wolverine, or maybe more. No, you are wrong. Trust me, Dragon Ball will make a lot of money, considering it is the most watched anime ever. In USA, it is not very known, but if you go to Japan, Europe or South America you will see the real thing.

Dragon Ball will make probably the same succes than Wolverine, or maybe more.

]]> By: Tomás http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6169 Tomás Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:54:40 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6169 I think that the future of Fox depends on Avatar. I think that the future of Fox depends on Avatar.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6166 Sebastian Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:29:28 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6166 @<a href="#comment-6153" rel="nofollow">Aly</a>: I am really hoping to see Avatar, been honest, I'm dying to see it. I'm with you Brad in the Dragonball thing, it won't make much money but not as less as Max Payne. Wolverine will hit the 175 million bar surely, I'm not sure about the 200. Night at the Museum will be a succes, that's for sure and They Came for Upstairs, Street Fighter, I don't see much in them, I mean, no luck for them... @Aly:
I am really hoping to see Avatar, been honest, I'm dying to see it. I'm with you Brad in the Dragonball thing, it won't make much money but not as less as Max Payne. Wolverine will hit the 175 million bar surely, I'm not sure about the 200. Night at the Museum will be a succes, that's for sure and They Came for Upstairs, Street Fighter, I don't see much in them, I mean, no luck for them…

]]> By: GregM http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6163 GregM Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:44:48 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6163 @<a href="#comment-6154" rel="nofollow">Brad Brevet</a>: Agreed. Except, I would suggest Fox didn't <i>make</i> Kingdom of Heaven, at least not the cut we still talk about 3 years later. Fox's original Weinstein-esque theatrical release earned returns on par with Max Payne and Hitman, despite being 'from the director of Gladiator'. Mind if a make a submission to your last 5 years list... Man on Fire (2004). $77.9 mill domestic isn't bad for an R rated flick (14A in Canada) with a runtime of 146mins. @Brad Brevet: Agreed. Except, I would suggest Fox didn't make Kingdom of Heaven, at least not the cut we still talk about 3 years later. Fox's original Weinstein-esque theatrical release earned returns on par with Max Payne and Hitman, despite being 'from the director of Gladiator'.

Mind if a make a submission to your last 5 years list…
Man on Fire (2004). $77.9 mill domestic isn't bad for an R rated flick (14A in Canada) with a runtime of 146mins.

]]> By: Brad Brevet http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6154 Brad Brevet Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:54:54 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6154 @<a href="#comment-6151" rel="nofollow">Christopher Marc</a>: You bring up what I was trying to get at when I called their films "glossy, candy-coated regurgitations" ... and I agree completely. It feels like they set out to make a group of PG-13 movies that can then be sold with the tag "Unrated" on DVD and simply dupe the audience into seeing it once in theaters based on hype (Hitman, Max Payne) and then get them again with the promise of an "Unrated" DVD which fans hope will be the film they wanted in the first place. When neither scenario works out it just makes people more and more upset. Then there is the issue that, outside of Australia, none of their movies branch out of that teenage genre. The idea of Fox making another film like Master and Commander, Kingdom of Heaven or Walk the Line just doesn't seem possible. Even their next big film is a sci-fi film, keeping very much in the fanboy tradition. @Christopher Marc: You bring up what I was trying to get at when I called their films "glossy, candy-coated regurgitations" … and I agree completely. It feels like they set out to make a group of PG-13 movies that can then be sold with the tag "Unrated" on DVD and simply dupe the audience into seeing it once in theaters based on hype (Hitman, Max Payne) and then get them again with the promise of an "Unrated" DVD which fans hope will be the film they wanted in the first place. When neither scenario works out it just makes people more and more upset.

Then there is the issue that, outside of Australia, none of their movies branch out of that teenage genre. The idea of Fox making another film like Master and Commander, Kingdom of Heaven or Walk the Line just doesn't seem possible. Even their next big film is a sci-fi film, keeping very much in the fanboy tradition.

]]> By: Aly http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6153 Aly Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:48:32 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6153 If street fighter is half decent, it should do better than you think its been around a long time and if it looks decent it will draw a lot of old fans Good article If street fighter is half decent, it should do better than you think its been around a long time and if it looks decent it will draw a lot of old fans

Good article

]]> By: Christopher Marc http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6151 Christopher Marc Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:29:45 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6151 I have high hopes for Fantastic Mr. Fox and Wolverine...Cameron should be able to sell Avatar to audiences without the help of Fox....I really think the studio has a history of executives who care more about marketing rather than telling a story or making a quality picture...If you notice the only movies in their lineup that look interesting are ones from acclaimed directors...the other projects look like they were focusing on DVD trends rather than understanding what moviegoers will watch...they're trying to hit that 7-12 year old market and it's not working if you notice not one of the movies are R, meaning not for highschool kids or adults...It's a big mistake only making PG and PG-13 films....they are ignoring a large part of the market and their numbers prove this..It doesn't help a lot of directors are turned off by the studio interfering during production I have high hopes for Fantastic Mr. Fox and Wolverine…Cameron should be able to sell Avatar to audiences without the help of Fox….I really think the studio has a history of executives who care more about marketing rather than telling a story or making a quality picture…If you notice the only movies in their lineup that look interesting are ones from acclaimed directors…the other projects look like they were focusing on DVD trends rather than understanding what moviegoers will watch…they're trying to hit that 7-12 year old market and it's not working if you notice not one of the movies are R, meaning not for highschool kids or adults…It's a big mistake only making PG and PG-13 films….they are ignoring a large part of the market and their numbers prove this..It doesn't help a lot of directors are turned off by the studio interfering during production

]]> By: Mikey http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/2008-continues-to-stand-still-for-20th-century-fox-will-2009-be-any-better#comment-6145 Mikey Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:04:03 +0000 http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/?p=11559#comment-6145 lol are you crazy Brad? Fans are going to see Dragonball: Evolution regardless how bad it looks, trust me it will make a lot money. lol are you crazy Brad? Fans are going to see Dragonball: Evolution regardless how bad it looks, trust me it will make a lot money.

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