2008 Oscar Nominees: The Reaction
These clown-like voters are up to their old shenanigans again
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BEST MAKEUP
Le Vie en Rose
Norbit
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
I think Le Vie en Rose has this in the doggie bag. It's the only good movie of the bunch. And I can't believe the trailer voice guy can now say, "Academy Award nominee, Norbit"
Norbit: 1
Zodiac: 0
BEST FILM EDITING
The Bourne Ultimatum
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood
Hey, where was the editing nom for The Bourne Supremacy guys? You misfits. And look who decided to join the party again. If it isn't our good friend, Into the Wild. Take this nomination and choke on it.
BEST SCORE
Atonement
The Kite Runner
Michael Clayton
Ratatouille
3:10 to Yuma
This was a fairly weak year for great scores but this selection is completely wrong-headed. These are all fine scores. Well, I honestly don't even remember Michael Clayton's score. But only two out three of these really belong: Ratatouille and Atonement.
I'm a little surprised Howard Shore's excellent Eastern Promises score was passed over. However, the Academy failed to nominate THE TWO BEST SCORES OF THE YEAR.
They have a knack for doing this. They didn't even nominate Clint Mansell's Fountain score (easily the best and most original score in years) last year. And they now ignored Nick Cave and Warren Ellis's beautiful and haunting score for Jesse James. It's a fucking joke, really.
They also screwed up by not nominating Jonny Greenwood's fantabulously dark and eerie There Will Be Blood score. I know, I know it wasn't eligible because of the track over the end credits. Even when the Academy is thinking they screw it up.
BEST ORIGINAL SONG
"Falling Slowly" from Once
"Happy Working Song" from Enchanted
"Raise it Up" from August Rush
"So Close" from Enchanted
"That's How You Know" from Enchanted
If I had it my way, all the nominees would have come from Once and the shockingly ignored Into the Wild songs by Eddie Vedder. I'm really taken aback Veddar got zilch.
UPDATE: In my haste, I completely forgot about another would-be contender absent from the award scene … Dave Matthews' great, creepy song "The Fly" from the the under-seen creepy flick, Joshua. I didn't expect it to get nominated, but it's easily better than all of the nominated songs above, save maybe "Falling Slowly".
That about sums up my dirty and spiteful feelings this year. There is sure to be a ton of more Oscar coverage in the coming weeks so stay tuned.
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I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean or call you a racist or anything, but why is it whenever a Black person or a Black-themed movie gets nominated or win ( ohh the horror) there is always so much outrage? This was brought up on other boards as well. I mean people say it's not because Ruby Dee is Black, but the quality of her performace wasn't up to the standards as everyone else. Well, isn't everything subjective? That seems to be the case ALL the time when Black-themed movies are nominated or Black actors winning. Jennifer Hudson didn't deserve it or Halle or Denzel or Jamie Foxx, Forest Whitaker was the exception. Imagine the horror if American Gangster got nominated. No, I'm not trying to play the race card here, but there is an unconsiderable amount of backlash whenever they are nominated or let alone win. People say oh it's affirmative action or the AMPA members don't want to be seen as racist.Could they actually like her performance better than others is that even possible? Now I'm not saying you can't criticize her or dislike her performance, but on other boards people are outraged.WTF. When they consider films with White casts or White actors to be mediocre like "Juno" and "Michael Clayton" or Ellen Page ( I thought her performance was fine myself) there is not a whole lot of outrage. I hope you guys don't get all defensive ( like some others) and actually think about what I said. Now I know that there is outrage for a lot of performances and movies, but nothing imho compares to the outrage that Black actors or Black-Themed movies get. I can understand the outrage of Norbit, but Ruby Dee?
I am not outraged that Ruby Dee was nominated, however I don't agree with it. I don't think her performance was long enough or even powerful enough to be nominated. However, I don't know why anyone would think it has anything to do with race… People have been saying Ruby Dee had a chance all year long and Dre even mentioned her in his prediction piece. Dre chalked the nom up to age and I don't think he ever mentioned race.
As far as Ellen Page goes, I agree she didn't deserve a nom. However, I think the entire cast of Michael Clayton deserved one.
To your comment regarding Jennifer Hudson, she didn't deserve it and she didn't deserve a nomination. As far as Halle goes, she really didn't deserve it for Monster's Ball, but I would have cheered had she been nominated for Things We Lost in the Fire, in which her performance was light years ahead of that mess in Monster's Ball (a film I loathe).
Denzel was amazing in Training Day and he can be nominated any day and it's a win in my book. I thought Forrest Whitaker was really good in Last King of Scotland, however, I think James McAvoy was overlooked as the true lead in that film.
I am having a hard time following the Jamie Foxx comment, are you referring to Ray? If so I didn't know there was any controversy or shit storm there. Jamie deserved that win 100 times over.
If you want to be upset about black actors/actresses not getting their due I look first at Don Cheadle, both he and Jada Pinkett were amazing in Reign Over Me, a film that was dismissed for whatever reason. I wasn't a huge fan of Talk to Me, but Taraji was great in that one.
Personally I didn't think American Gangster was that great a film. I didn't mention it in my Honorable Mention for 2007 and I think if anyone deserved a supporting actress nomination for a minimal role it would have been Vanessa Redgrave from Atonement. I don't say that because she is white, but because the performance was plain and simply better and more memorable. Outside of slapping Denz and that scene from the trailer of her getting the house I hardly remember Ruby Dee in American Gangster, I certainly wasn't floored by her performance in any way. I can't speak for others, but that is why I don't think she deserved the nom.
I don't know what other boards you are mentioning, but I think Dre will agree with me and my assessment of at least Dee's nomination.
Well maybe this thread from the filmexperience would help you understand what I'm trying to say. If it's not okay I'll quickly take them down.
Here is one highlight:
[QUOTE]What I did find racially suspect was the level of hatred and outrage online when The Great Debaters recieved a Golden Globe nomination. This was a film almost nobody had actually seen, but was recieving strong early reviews and had actually won a precusor or two. People had decided that Oprah had bought the film a nomination.
Yet Across The Universe, a film few people care about or particularly rate at all in terms of awards season, gets a Globe nomination for Best Picture, and it slides by without much comment or outrage.
One is a black film. The other isn't. I find the response to both films getting nominated to be highly questionable.
Nate
Here is the thread again, it's pretty long.
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I think basically what they are saying is that whether or not you think they deserve it ( which is based on opinion) why wasn't there the same outrage when Hilary Swank ( I remember a lot of people not liking her performance) won. Or where is the outrage of Juno ( I mean a lot of people thought it was overrated) , but to me it seems like today everyone is talking about Ruby Dee.
For the record I didn't really like Dreamgirls either and I didn't think that AG was the best movie of this year. I'm not accusing you guys of this, but I just thought it would be good to discuss it on other boards. Yes there was huge outrage when Jamie Foxx won, people thought it was showboating.
Hey BeautifulM, had to edit that for length reasons, but like I said, I can't speak for others. Personally Walk the Line was not worthy of a nom, even Ray (the film) had flaws such as length and you and I already discussed The Great Debaters, which I skipped.
I think people tend to hear what they want to hear and dismiss the other stuff. Some people may read upset folks saying Great Debaters got nominated and shouldn't have, but here is the thing about Across the Universe. The Globe category is Musical/Comedy… there aren't a lot of quality films in that category each year. I never saw Across the Universe, I can't speak to its quality, but I know there weren't a lot of films to fill that genre and there traditionally aren't.
You also have to understand that 99.9% of the population is ignorant and online forums are havens for these folks. They hide behind their online personas and can say whatever they like. Then you have the uptight film lovers that have their opinions and don't sway. It is a losing situation.
I understand your frustration, but I can't really explain why people act the way they do. :)
Oh, and as for Juno, I think I already spent all of my outrage on that one. That's the article and then I get slammed over here.
I cried myself to sleep after getting bashed around on that one. :)
I mean Waitress could've been nominated. Anyway, like I said I'm not accusing you guys of this , I just thought it would be good to ask around other blogs. Oh I know you hate Juno, I thought it was okay, but Ellen Page was good.
im just psyched there will be blood got 8. thats all i need to know other than that i dont take the oscars to serisously.